In case you haven't noticed you now select Last Page (or the first three pages) directly from the Forum Directories. Should make things a lot easier for a lot of people.

Also once you post you now go back to the end of the thread.

Or perhaps you go back to where you were since I haven't tried this from anywhere but the end of the thread. However, regardless this feature is highly appreciated.

My crappy submission. I can't bear to try these settings again. Tech victory is about as rewarding as the condescending looks you get when you're the only one who is bitter about something.

Actually I want to make an announcement that some people are aware of but I want to make sure that everyone is aware of.

The MVL Admins have had a private forum on the Tyranny of Evil web site for quite awhile. The purpose of this forum is mostly to be able to discuss scores prior to announment so that there was agreement among multiple independent score calculations to avoid errors in the announced results.

At one point it was mentioned that this could be considered to be the beginning of some kind of smoke filled back room where secret decisions get made, which really wasn't accurate but obviously when things are secret then the question comes up why it needs to be.

The answer is that it really doesn't need to be secret and so Neilo changed the permissions so that this forum is viewable by all. It still can only be posted to by the Commissioner, Vice Commissioner, Score Keeper, Rule Keeper and Commissioner Emeritus (with all these titles I can see the potential worry about a back room committee making secret decisions), but now at least everyone can read it and see what's going on. This forum is the MVL Parliament.

As a minor aside I have been keeping a list of the current round's submissions and this list is all set up with links to each MVL member's MV character and I generally keep this relatively up to date with the current state of the rounds submissions.

Anyway this is something that I've found to be a great convenience, particularly the links to everyone's MV character, and I've decided to share this information with everyone. Please do not presume that this is in any way official or that I'm trying to usurp the function of the Official Scorekeeper. Kzinti is the official scorekeeper and keeps his own tally. I assume he uses my input along with the input of others to verify his results but it is his results that are official, not mine.

With that stated this still can be useful information that can help each team strategize and since I'm doing it for myself regardless of what anyone else does I figured that I may as well let other teams see the same information.

In any case this is viewable at the Current Round Submissions thread. Feel free to check in as often as you like but generally the usefullness of this thread becomes greater later in the round once a good portion of the league has submitted their games.

Here is my submission for this round. Not the best and I can definitely agree with others that this was a hard-fought round.
Now, as I have already told my teammates, I can stop to enjoy the finer things in life such as my brand new (and my first) granddaughter, Hayden. Born 13 weeks early. I can't hold her but she already has grandpa wrapped around her tiny, little finger.

awww, congrats on the granddaughter Amalric. I'm off for my (only) niece's 1st birthday this afternoon before I fly out.

As a side note, noticed you're using 1.80e; are you having fleet issues and the such? 1.80e had a few pretty significant bugs in it that were mostly addressed in 1.80g

Congrats Amalric!! 13 weeks early!! One assumes then that all is well which is great!!

Enjoy mate!

Well, I played this game over a dozen times, couldn't beat 3 years, and with my schedule stacking up, I doubt I'd be able to get a better game in sometime this round, so here's my submission for Team B (let's see if I get this screenshot thing right first try this round):

Aaaaand here's my submission for Team E.

Not as good as I hoped, but the settings really were against me this round.


Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz
Alignment: Very Good
Years: 4
Race: [Altarian]
Victory: Beyond Mortality
Score: 4205
Difficulty: Normal
Size: Medium
Game Version: v1.80g Dark Avatar (Dark Avatar)
Timestamp: 3/2/2008 7:39:09 AM

It seems that the discussion about ARC and straw dog opponents has settled down a bit.

It also seems that most response has been in favor of my proposed rule addition to deal with such things. To date the closest I've heard to an objection is that the rule is a bit subjective and I don't really think that was meant an objection it was more an observation of fact that it leaves the interpretation up to the player.

Anyway I do believe that this is a simple statement consistent with the spirit of the MVL and I do believe it addresses the essence of the concerns expressed by most MVL members.

Therefore I would like to propose that this rule be accepted by the MVL by the "default approval" process and therefore I'm posting this here as well as the MVL Rulebook thread.

If anyone objects to this rule or feels that we need something stronger then please make your objections known before one week from the time of this post.

Anyway here is the statement of the rule for you to consider.

A perfect description....

I guess I am the oddball out this time. I usually play without tech trading. I can't figure it out, it seems to be one area of the game just beyond me. I have tons of trouble getting decent trades with the AI, and feel that they use it amongst themselves for overwhelming advantage. No tech trading is fine with me. I won't be posting a 1 year win to be certain, but meh, I don't miss it.

There is no Jagged knife in DL that i am aware of mate. Play whichever version suits you best, i myself played 7 games this round looking to get a good game, 2 of them DL. I submitted only 2 games in total, thats how good i did in some of them.

Don't despair mate, you are not alone.