SanChonino, that's pretty mellow imo ;>
Mmmmm, OTEP. Pretty heavy, but I wouldn't say apocalyptic. I'd say more it's like the soundtrack to a personal breakdown. Rocks hard, but Neurosis has more presence.

You don't really understand what Neurosis does until you've got the CD in your player, cranked as high as possible, and you can feel your ribcage cracking with each beat.