Why can't I see this posted?

while this may be true for me the advantage of defending as a fleet outweighs this

Marcathonas, you misunderstood. Attacking a fleet in orbit on a planet with a Fleet Manager costs 1 MP. Attacking each ship in orbit without a fleet manager also costs 1 MP each. So if you have two planets each with 6 ships in orbit and one has a fleet manager (A), the other does not ( it will cost you 6 MP to destroy all the ships on planet B, while only costing 1 MP to destroy the ships on planet A. So the Fleet manager actually helps your enemy because after attacking your planet with a fleet manger, he has all those MPs left. This is not debatable, it's a fact. you can check yourself.

And I already said this was a minor annoyance, but it was worth mentioning since it is such an easy fix.

I wish I hadn't put in the first example. The cheese tactics aren't my concern. All I'm saying is that if I attack a bunch of ships in orbit of an AI planet, I hope he has a fleet manager so my attack only uses 1 MP when I'm done. If the AI does not have a fleet manager, it will cost my fleets the number of MPs = the number of ships in orbit.

The AI almost always builds Fleet Mangers on larger planets, so it's to our advantage, but it doesn't seem right.

Honestly, if I have to play defense, I'd rather have my ships off-planet in a real fleet, backed by assist modules (Battlestation).

Why waste a precious tile for something that gives a dubious benefit?

No I didn't. Your point is irrelevant,

You are very argumentative, there is nothing to argue about here. I was pointiing out a fact; it costs fewer MP to attack a planet's ships in orbit when there is a fleet manager. It seems that if the attacking fleeet's MP were subtracted by the number of ships in the fleet then it would even out again.

Of course using a FM is better when defending, but the AI saves movement points when you do. That's all I'm saying.

it costs fewer MP to attack a planet's ships in orbit when there is a fleet manager

Because they're in a fleet. As I said, if you don't want them to attack at once, don't build it. Attacking a fleet is one movement point, and that won't change. And I apologise for being argumentative, but honestly there just isn't a point. Fleets will always be one movement point to attack one planets, the same as in space.

I, too dont like the system at the moment.

If you think about it its stupid that your ships need 1 movementpoint to fly 1 parsec kill 1 ship and fly back to where they came from...

It would make more sense to force you to fight ALL ships and fleets one after another unless you invest another movementpoint to retreat.

The 1 movement point per ship attacked when the defenders are unfleeted is an adequate representation of having to hunt that ship down in a 1x1x1 parsec area(as that lone vessel will probably be an unwilling combatant).

As for the fleet managers, I personally use a more mobile defense theory and therefore do not use the things. But their purpose isn't to slow down the enemy(which is the purpose of having unfleeted defenders) but to destroy the attacking forces.

If you can create a powerful enough fleet to defeat the attackers, then it's worth it...otherwise, it can be better to just slow them down with crap ships.

No, they're attacking a fleet. It's always 1 mp to attack a fleet, and this won't be changed. I use orbital fleet managers on my best planets, and design defenders with very high defences that won't be wiped out in the first turn, and can still do heavy damage.

I don't bother with them at all. I prefer the old saying "the best defense is a good offense". So I just place 1 small defender on each planet to keep the riffraff( rogue transports) away and strategically place good offensive fleets near my borders with potential threats.

I may be wrong but I think the OP meant to say that he'd rather the AI use a fleet manager on its planet so he can swoop in and wipe out the fleet and still have MPs left to move on to say the next planet in the system.

That being said again as with all things in this game there are multiple viable solutions to the same type of problems. I tend to build fleet managers on planets that I want the AI to think twice about attacking. I've noticed in the latest beta that it will make a bee line for planets that are not defended in this fashion. Something that may need to be tweak cause if that is actually the case and not just a fluke of my current game then with that knowledge I can direct what the AI attacks. This would be bad .

It really depends on what victory condition I'm in the mood to go for. If I'm just sitting back waiting on a tech victory then I fill all my starports with ships and let the fleet manager take care of defense for me. If I'm on the offensive then it is rare for any enemy fleets to exist let alone get near my planets . Typically though the fleet manager is one of the last things I build and that is after I feel the planet is efficient enough for my needs.