I'm not sure I'd say it's overpowered - get rolling on Tourism and you can easily have more money than that. Not that 600 is chump change, but it's about one bought item a week (Maybe more if you're neutral).

Jonnan

I know what you mean,but well i guess that im just not used to have all that power. Normally i play thorians and yor wich are good in the early game, so i too had some problems with the early economy, but as you said once i reached the mid game, it was an easy ride.

Still Dimplomacy+Super Manipulator+War Profiteering is a killer combo, maybe it would be fun for some people but what makes the game insteresting for me is to  try to keep the enemies of my back while i conquer others, make allainces, make a plan for what im going to reaserch based on what i need and that kind of stuff and it just gets a little to easy with the drath. Diplomacy is really powerfulll, maybe if i had the game a little more powerfull than cripplin thay migt hav been a little more picky with what they get each time i asked for something.

Point is i think im done with the drath, im going out and maybe ill try the krynn next.

Thank you very much, still if you feel that you have oter ideas you can share, cya.

Im sure that game as the thalans must have been very fun. You know thats the type of game that i lke, one where you dont get a big surplus so easly and you have to really plan ahead to get some advantages although i must confess that without war profiteering the draths would be the weakest race of them all.

I was re-reading a couple of guides like the TA101 and it re-newd my love for the yor, so i wentand  i play a game as them, i started simple with a cluster of stars very near a corner, than another cluster of stars bigger than mine on that same corner (wich i belive is habited, i play with blind exploration) wich i left alone and went for the biggest star cluster almost at the middle wich righ now i share with the terrans. So i colonize almost everything in the middle cluster, wich is very big and i just get anoyed by the terrans and their vast influence on my planets so i decide to do something about it.

So i was thinking of going reaserch to out tech them, but then again yor are a race of eficcency and they preform very well early game so i decided to atack the terrans and take them out, you can imagine a war with ships of maybe 2 and 3 of atack, terrans had almost nothing to fight with but they managed to get 5 races to atack me, luckly 3 of them are too far to reach me, 1 is so far that only the occasional fighter atacks me and the 5th are the one in the other coner, the iconinas wich surpinsingly have 15 and 20 atack ships, and im beating them with cheer numbers, basivly what happens is that they have too many atack for such little ships so i atack them with my now 5laser ships and take 5 to 3 of their 8 hp ships and then thier ships atack and 1 of my fighters get destroyed, so basicly their to advance for thier own good, thx to my mil pro bonus (60% with only initial boosts) im producing swarms of littl fighters with small atacks and high speeds (6), so im practicly taking the terrans and the iconians at the same time with must of my planets underdeveloped.

So to get back to the topic, i think drath are cool but with 60% diplomacy + all the bonus you get before reaching war profitring almost all races are your slaves (the only good word i could think of), except maybe the humans, thats the exact reason i dont use the humans anymore, diplomacy is very strong.

BTW i play with tech trading off too and i was wondering is there a way to make everyone not get techs when they invade, i like to have each race with thier own techs it makes the game more intresting.

Also  think soemday they should put an option to be able to trade only ceartain aproved techs, like weapons or armor those are the only ones that i think should be tradable, only the generic ones.

Yeah im playing TA, im a little sutpid i never stoped to see the already selected options.

And can you explain the tech brokering stuuf, cause why would someone want to trade a tech he has already reaserched. can someone explain with a little more detail what tech brokering does?

Revert propaganda... Anti-collaboration... Polarized Scientific progress... Egoism... Enough?

To me, tech-brockering prevents anyone from reaching Tech-Victory condition *without* playing it safe or *grinding* turns to an halt beyond a certain point; Conquest by war means only.

There also goes the Pacifist way of thinking or playing on the premise that...

1) knowledge is universal

2) Allies can't get what they need techno_wise from MY technologic edge

3) Better tech equals stronger of everything or not

4) Research points are spent only and not traded for, indirectly.

I was against this unbalancing option for many reasons.

I prefer an equal foe for competition even if that means i can spare an obsolete tech by trading IT wisely for say, just a space Miner ship near a juicy remote field of Asteroids yet to be claimed.

But, TotA brought up the uniqueness of 12 different trees -- in which case, someone can see what precious value a rare tech can have ***IF*** kept away from any potential enemy but also, from your peaceful neighbors.

It sure takes the entire dynamics of diplomatic deals away from what we were able to 'strategically' plan with DL & DA - in fact.

well there's only a handful of techs which are specific and CAN be traded by default

if one really wants it's quite easy to mod them as untradable