What's wrong with such a discussion? The American people deserve to understand how much they've lost. Our country is in the worst shape it's been in since the last world war. We deserve a country whose name isn't synonymous with torture. We deserve a country where Truth and Justice mean something. We deserve a country where The American Way doesn't mean blind obeisance to corporate capitalism and Democracy is a matter of The Vote, not The Almighty Dollar.
Instead, we have a country, and a forum, where, when uncomfortable ideals are put forth, and the views of some members aren't in lock-step with their own personal beliefs, they want NO discussion, NO democracy, and a locked thread.