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USAF_Ronin
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I want my capital to be right . . .

March 13, 2008 9:40:17 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I've been building a lot of ships according to Star Trek canon and including a few from the Star Fleet Universe games so I can build my starfleet but now I want an Earth that corresponds to that storyline.

So does anyone know how I can mod Earth so that the Capital tile appears in the Europe tile and the Star Port appears in the tile along the western United States.

For those who don't follow along with Star Trek the reason for this is that the Capital of the United Federation of Planets is in Paris and Star Fleet command is in San Francisco.
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pndrev
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Reply #1 March 13, 2008 10:24:26 AM
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I don't think you can do that.

The tiles themselves are placed according to some heightmap, IIRC. But the buildings (much like the initial colony on new planets) are then placed by the program.
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Reply #2 March 14, 2008 1:57:34 AM
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And, that's really toooo bad, pndrev! Although pure random has its appeal, at times.

Just trying to figure out how to simply implement two extra type of upgradable terrains (Coastal Integration & Harshland Conditioning techno related surface tiles) within DA concepts of grey_scale raws and height fields gap restricted to built-in defaults is and has been a serious "flaw" to my modding attempts for X-Worlds. Here, crossing fingers for the "new" TA system & methods.

Now, placing a Capital ON a specific spot out of a 72 tiles pool only may be a different issue, but it's the kinda of control which may very well squeeze into another pet-peeve of mine - triangular_hexagonal driven surface maps / with three more planetary layers; Atmospheric, Underground & Orbital included. Refer to this thread for a quick rundown over the suggestion; "Optimal Hexagon Tiles"... WWW Link

And, AF_Ronin -- What about a true scenario workout with the upcoming TA editor(s) - would that fit your needs?



- Zyxpsilon.
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Reply #3 March 18, 2008 4:30:59 PM
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I am hoping that the TA editors will work out.
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Reply #4 March 18, 2008 5:16:12 PM
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God, Zyxpsilon...
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Reply #5 March 18, 2008 10:32:21 PM
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huh?
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Reply #6 March 20, 2008 12:25:23 PM
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I could write your posts for you, Zyxpsilon... I always know exactly what they're going to say by now

Although I can't wait for the mod! Good luck.
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Reply #7 March 20, 2008 1:33:50 PM
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Still working very hard at it... just last week, i went on a rampage with the technology tree and ya know what - (similarly to the new TA multiple variations), you simply won't recognize the DL/DA defaults. Most tech slots have been renamed, some calibrated with different values/costs/effects, with entirely new nodes and pathways.
I'd say the mod will in fact become some kind of semi-TA type of stuff tailored straight in_&_out for DL.

Huge endeavor, lots of analysis and careful refitting. In the last few days, i've even been thinking about adding four more Capitals, and a whole bunch of Trade-Goods (inspired by X-Com, of course)!!

If only i'd have had the TA editors - before.

- Zyxpsilon.
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Reply #8 March 21, 2008 1:40:40 PM
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Awesome! Yeah, too bad about the editors--I bet the tech tree editor will come out just after you finish the tech trees
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Reply #9 March 21, 2008 3:35:16 PM
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Found a way to resolve my problem. All I need is the capital to appear in Europe. I can always decommission the Star Port and put it where I want. However I just downloaded TA Beta and the Earth Tiles are in different spots. Anyone know if I can move the tiles?
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DSep
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Reply #10 March 21, 2008 3:42:25 PM
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there's no code for setting a specific tile to be the capital. it's always random.

-Dave
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Reply #11 March 21, 2008 4:32:37 PM
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I know that its random, so I just kept restarting until I got it. Changing the starport is the easy part.
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Reply #12 March 22, 2008 12:48:42 AM
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Duh - restarting until everythin' shows up the right way! Now, why did i not think of that one?
Indirectly you could simply change the picture of Earth and the tiles would follow your draft like slaves of a master.

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Reply #13 March 22, 2008 6:58:17 AM
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Be aware that excessive restarting via ctrl-N can mess up the difficulties of the AI players.
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Reply #14 March 22, 2008 10:40:45 AM
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its a good thing I don't do it using Ctrl-n then
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Reply #15 March 24, 2008 1:39:05 AM
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So you use ships from the starfleet universe, nice. I think that would make a great mod for this game. Anyone here ever place federation and Empire, sweet game but the rules take for ever to play but the cpu could make that more reasonable.
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Reply #16 March 24, 2008 11:10:33 AM
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One thing if I am ever brave to try is try to build capital ships from Renegade Legion. Now that would be an undertaking. I have the Capital Ship reference book with gee over 200 vessels.
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