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freighter command broken? AI giving in too easily?

January 24, 2008 10:28:02 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I was playing a game with 0.95[b].002 where I was the Korx. I was at war with the Terrans and the Drath when the super pirates special event appeared. The pirates started destroying everything in sight.

Wanting to keep my trade routes running, I quickly researched and then paid to build the Freighter Command, which was supposed to recreate my freighters if they were destroyed. This didn't seem to do anything, and all of my trade routes were lost one by one as the pirates destroyed everything they could. So either I misunderstood the description or this isn't working correctly.

I think I also ran into an AI bug. First the Terrans and later the Drath surrendered to me while the pirates had destroyed everything. I think they saw that they had no ships and decided they must be very weak so they surrendered. This seemed odd since I didn't have any ships at the time either.

The game was still interesting, because I eventually research black hole guns, super shields, and lots of miniaturization. Eventually my "Pirates Bane" cleared out all of the pirates, making the galaxy safe for my eventual victory
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Reply #1 January 25, 2008 11:59:19 AM
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Freighter Command should keep the route open, even though the freighter keep getting destroyed. I think this only works on routes you created though.
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Reply #2 January 25, 2008 12:55:26 PM
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I was playing a game with 0.95[b].002 where I was the Korx. I was at war with the Terrans and the Drath when the super pirates special event appeared. The pirates started destroying everything in sight.

Wanting to keep my trade routes running, I quickly researched and then paid to build the Freighter Command, which was supposed to recreate my freighters if they were destroyed. This didn't seem to do anything, and all of my trade routes were lost one by one as the pirates destroyed everything they could. So either I misunderstood the description or this isn't working correctly.

I think I also ran into an AI bug. First the Terrans and later the Drath surrendered to me while the pirates had destroyed everything. I think they saw that they had no ships and decided they must be very weak so they surrendered. This seemed odd since I didn't have any ships at the time either.

The game was still interesting, because I eventually research black hole guns, super shields, and lots of miniaturization. Eventually my "Pirates Bane" cleared out all of the pirates, making the galaxy safe for my eventual victory



I can't speak for the Freighter Command, but I've definitely had the other problem occur. I had a chain-reaction of surrenders following a similar mega-event (can't recall if was pirates or peacekeepers) and it's what led me to play with the mega-events turned off.

I think you're exactly correct; an AI race sees itself as terribly weak and surrenders to either you or another AI even though no one is in a position to conquer it. Maybe it's because they keep losing ships to the super-ships from the mega event?
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Reply #3 January 25, 2008 1:34:14 PM
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I play with surrender off now. In beta3, I bribed the 4th most powerful race to attack the 2nd. I wanted them to keep him busy. The very next turn the race I had bribed surrendered to the race I told to attack. I was very annoyed.
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Reply #4 January 25, 2008 2:50:12 PM
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It is not the mega events that are a problem. It is the surrendering. I'm kind of amazed that you haven't had frustrating AI surrenders before this. They love to give up on the second turn of a war. The Drath will completely screw up any game that allows surrenders.
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Reply #5 January 25, 2008 10:03:39 PM
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Freighter Command should keep the route open, even though the freighter keep getting destroyed. I think this only works on routes you created though.


Hmm. I did see some strange messages about the distance was too far or something like that. It could be that I needed a starbase (which had been since destroyed) to reach where the trade route was going, and when the freighter was recreated it was now too far? I could kind of understand that, but with a special "Freighter Command" I am not certain if it should have that limitation. If it does, it should at least have a better error message if it can't recreate the freighter because the distance is too far.
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