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Whoa! I like Research, but...

November 11, 2007 1:28:58 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I love the All Labs strategy, but...

Is THIS supposed to be POSSIBLE?

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Unfortunately, this was in the course of just barely trying out TA/b2, since I had to be away from the game for a couple months, and the scenario settings are ludicrous (really easy - maybe cakewalk, one opponent, and I don't think I spent any start-up ability points.) I was just going to look things over, look at the tech tree, etc. Now I REALLY wish I could play this out. I might try it anyway.

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Reply #1 November 11, 2007 1:42:37 AM
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Reply #2 November 11, 2007 3:43:41 AM
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Aha. Finally got into reply mode.

Try looking at it now, Moose.

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Reply #3 November 11, 2007 5:08:33 AM
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That is fraking awesome!!! I have never seen that before. Oh well no second guesses for where your tech capital is going...but yes two on one planet is a bit too much. Though i would hazard a guess at that is the first time this has happened, at least that i have heard of.
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Reply #4 November 11, 2007 5:32:07 AM
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As I said, unfortunately the pure investigation game/scenario set up I used is so poor as to make the game completely unsatisfying. But BOY, if I could just save the galaxy/planet start and reset the gamr for real play...

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Reply #5 November 11, 2007 6:51:24 AM
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Ok, this is getting a little rediculous now.

The following screen shot is from a game start 3 starts later than the previous. One of the starts in-between actually had 3Precursor Mines, but I flubbed the screenshot.



Much as I'd like to think that I am GalCiv's own pooka, no mere mortal is this lucky.

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Reply #6 November 11, 2007 7:17:29 AM
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Dear Carielf,

This shot is from the very next game start.



Obviously you must fix this very serious anomaly for everyone (else) right away. I however, am willing to play using the flawed code for an indefinite period to assist in whatever way I can to trace the origin of the problem. 6-7 months should be sufficient.

And as a reward for my sharp perceptions, could you possibly turn on TA Metaverse during that time so I may share my...er...insights with the core palyer community.

Its a tough job, but some of us (preferably, me) just have to bite the bullet and help you out!

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Reply #7 November 11, 2007 7:54:14 AM
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How many virgins did you have to sacrifice to get this sort of luck? I really need to know...

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Reply #8 November 11, 2007 8:56:07 AM
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Even I could do a suicidal with that start!
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Reply #9 November 11, 2007 9:00:55 AM
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Drrider: You're obviously hacking the game. Please don't send in fraudulent bugs.    j/k

Yeah, while I would LOVE to start off with worlds such as these, it does seem to make for a unfair/unsatisfying start.

We'll look into the code, but, in the meantime, anybody else get blessed with one of these bonus-rich starting worlds?

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Reply #10 November 11, 2007 9:11:46 AM
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I tried ~10 starts with large and small galaxies and didn't get a single 700%. The bonus tiles distribution felt just like normal. I used he TA beta 0.85[b].002

But if I got it I would not be unsatisfied!
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Reply #11 November 11, 2007 10:07:36 AM
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I want one of those!

Do you perform any kind of incantation and/or use any potions while generating your galaxy?
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Reply #12 November 11, 2007 12:23:21 PM
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I got "only" one presursor thingy on my homeworld for the tournament plus a few more goodies. But then I didn't restart. Ithought it was the tournie setting.
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Reply #13 November 11, 2007 1:04:19 PM
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Only six times did I ever get a homeworld with a 700% bonus in the last two years. But only two times of the six that I had two 700% bonuses. One with two mines and other with one of each. OMG back then I was a noob and didn't realise what I had but now. AHHHG! Well I can always hope for the best. LIKE MY NEXT GAME COME ON!!!
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Reply #14 November 11, 2007 1:22:14 PM
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How many virgins did you have to sacrifice to get this sort of luck? I really need to know...

Sentient species taste better... Sentient species taste better...


Unlike you voracious alien carnivores, I have better uses for precious human resources. After all, with a start like this, the game will be over quickly and then I will be looking for a way to celebrate.

Sacrifice virgins, indeed! Hmfph! What kind of a chauvin...er...wastrel do you think I am?

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Reply #15 November 11, 2007 1:57:17 PM
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Ok, its not quite as good as the first one (one less 100% rsch tile), but the Blue Fairy has granted my wish again, Gepetto.

This time I was ready with a decent "Let's play Masochistic" set-up, so...see you guys later. Now, if only the Metaverse were enabled.

(this one was about 8 starts after the last Super Industrial start.)

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Reply #16 November 11, 2007 5:36:37 PM
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I never seen more than four 700% tiles in any game of mine, let alone on the same planet...And that's with 900+ planets for some of them. Never any on a homeworld.

Alright everyone, rub drrider's charatacter for luck!
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Reply #17 November 11, 2007 5:44:57 PM
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Hmmm i thought i got lucky with one Precursor mine on my homeworld! Looks like i am going to have to CTRL+N me a few times then

Man i just tried CTRL+N dozens of times and not got a single 700%! What exact settings/picks are you using so we can see if its a set up issue. Start from the first page onwards please.
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Reply #18 November 11, 2007 6:59:50 PM
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Reply #19 November 12, 2007 3:57:03 AM
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I think this is not so much a situation of getting more special tiles on home worlds as much as it is simply a situation of more special tiles in general. I don't see many games with special tiles on my home world, but I have seen more of the +300% and +700% tiles than I remember seeing in DA. But I thought there was some mention of that in some changelog somewhere...? Can't recall anymore....
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Reply #20 November 12, 2007 5:08:59 PM
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But I thought there was some mention of that in some changelog somewhere...? Can't recall anymore....


I've noticed an increase since 1.80 (I think - I don't play as much as I'd like, and always seem to be a version or two behind   ). I played the campaign over the weekend and the Thalans had one of each 700% bonus on their homeworld on the last mission, so it's not just Twilight that's doing this.
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Reply #21 November 12, 2007 5:37:29 PM
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Reply #22 November 12, 2007 5:57:47 PM
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I occasionally get really good starting worlds even in DA/DL with 4 bonus tiles, but never more than two bonuses in the same category, like one of the screens above.
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Reply #23 November 12, 2007 8:18:47 PM
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How many virgins did you have to sacrifice to get this sort of luck? I really need to know...

Unlike you voracious alien carnivores, I have better uses for precious human resources. After all, with a start like this, the game will be over quickly and then I will be looking for a way to celebrate.

Sacrifice virgins, indeed! Hmfph! What kind of a chauvin...er...wastrel do you think I am




Well, what other use are they? It's not like they are any good for naughty fun. I'll choose someone corrupt and lascivious any day...like my aweseome gf.

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Reply #24 November 12, 2007 8:46:59 PM
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How many virgins did you have to sacrifice to get this sort of luck? I really need to know...

Unlike you voracious alien carnivores, I have better uses for precious human resources. After all, with a start like this, the game will be over quickly and then I will be looking for a way to celebrate.

Sacrifice virgins, indeed! Hmfph! What kind of a chauvin...er...wastrel do you think I am




Well, what other use are they? It's not like they are any good for naughty fun. I'll choose someone corrupt and lascivious any day...like my aweseome gf.

Sentient species taste better... Sentient species taste better...



    
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Reply #25 November 13, 2007 4:17:40 AM
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Drrider: You're obviously hacking the game. Please don't send in fraudulent bugs.    j/k


Yeah, while I would LOVE to start off with worlds such as these, it does seem to make for a unfair/unsatisfying start.


We'll look into the code, but, in the meantime, anybody else get blessed with one of these bonus-rich starting worlds?



Boogie,
I probably should have specified that all of the starts where this happened were Immense, everything a rare / slow as possible, as the Terrans. The later occurrances wer on Maso, but I think that was probably irrelavent; it just shows that it can occur at both low and high settings.

BTW, I did win the game I played with the double library start. For quite awhile, after initial money ran out, I had to run with my overall industry setting as low as ~20%. Probably did that for about 2 years, until the trade revenues really began to kick in and the pops got up a bit. Even so, I tried to not research anything that took more than 3 weeks; in practice, i think I had to research one tech (I can't remember which) for 7 weeks when I was dropping the expendature slider so low, I researched 3-4 things at 4 weeks, and everthing else I mastered in 3 weeks or less. I probably got 33% of the techs in the game in 1 week, and another third in 2 weeks.

I ran out the entire tech table (even though Brad was trying to design this update so that wasn't practical ). More remarkably, since I had focused on being extremely diplomatic as well as extreme researcher, I played the entire game, against all available races, without a shot fired (at/from me, that is) in anger. I was getting tired when the tech tree ran out, so I settled for a tech win.

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