Nope. Stock exchanges are now way way way way too too good...

For the way they gutted the morale buildings, they should eliminate the stock exchange morale bonus.

I'm beginning to think this game will NEVER be balanced out correctly. (other than the diligent efforts of the modders out there)

So long as there are goofy imbalances like this that the AI doesn't take advantage of, the game will continue to disappoint. This is what kills me. This game has so much more potential. Just balance the game you already designed and teach the AI to use the features already in the game. I can't imagine buying an expansion when the original game is just getting where it should have been when it was released.

out of the 1.3 planetimprovement.xml file:

Stock Market -> Morale 10, economy 25, prestige 5, Cost 120, Maint cost 1

Multimedia Center (needs Xeno Entertainment tech, so I am assuming this is what you mean) -> Morale 10, Cost 100, Maint cost 2

Pretty clear Stock Markets are the way to go between these 2 choices, but don't forget there are 3 more advanced morale buildings with higher morale improvements.

Please do not make comments like this or the developers will nerf stock exchanges

LMAO

you got to take into consideration that your comparing a level 4 building with a level 1 building

Definitely agree here.

The cost of researching up to Stock Exchanges has been increased but even so I'd rather spend time researching stock exchanges and build the stock exchange than build any morale building whatsoever.

Although I almost never build morale buildings, I still research the morale tech branch relatively early simply to get the total 25% ability bonus to morale that this branch provides.

never build morale buildings

This is my view when playing 1.3. Don't waste a planet tile on a morale specific building. Build a stock exchange instead. I now rely on taking +20% morale ability bonus, populist party +10% morale, get all the morale wonders, get all the morale mining resources (I will go to war now over a morale resource) and research the morale tech just for the + morale bonuses.

do agree that the nerfing of the morale buildings is puzzling. Personally I didn't see the need to build them before and still don't see any need for them.

Yep, they r nearly as useless and worthless as the Galactic Guide Book.      

In the early and mid-game, before you have researched stock exchanges the pure morale buildings can be advantageous. However once you research stock exchanges, the wise person would build over his pure morale buildings with stock exchanges.

Please do not make comments like this or the developers will nerf stock exchanges

Yep, they will (i'm not kidding) nerf it down to giving only a 5% economy bonus... if were lucky enough to get that much.  

well even though stock exchanges give moral bonus, i still need to atleast reseach the moral buildings tech, everytime i research one of them my moral also climbs even without building the new buildings. i really want that bonus to.

Don't forget that just having the morale techs gives a morale bonus.

If you never build morale buildings, then how do you keep you people happy AND have enough people (farms) for a broad tax base? I usually build two moral buildings for every farm.

I only use morale buildings to "even" out the morale on planets that lag behind the others. For example in the early colony rush I might build a multimedia center on my home planet to compensate for the fact that it has a higher pop than all my colonies.

I think it's far more effective to use the global sources of morale to lift the average level of morale throughout my empire. This includes morale resource mining (if I can get them), the 25% bonus to morale ability you get from researching the morale branch of the tech tree, the 57% total bonus from the wonders (Harmony Crystals, Ultra Spices, Virtual Reality Modules, Frictionless Clothing), plus I always get either the 20% or 25% morale racial ability. Finally you get a 10% morale bonus if you play neutral (which I usually do).

I also "pace" the building and upgrading of farms with my current level of morale ability. By the time I've gotten all the techs and wonders listed above plus a single morale resource to mine, I'm done. In v1.2 you didn't even really need the morale resource to stabilize pop at 15B on all your planets using a single advanced farm. With v1.3 it's a bit tougher, you can use a single advanced farm for 12B per planet or two advanced farms for 19B per planet. You'll probably need an extra morale resource to mine to keep the 19B happy.

All this is presuming a tax rate of 79% with approval at 100% on all planets pretty much throughout the entire game. If you miss a wonder or two, or if you don't have any morale resources to mine you can simply lower your tax rate a bit and accept maybe a 90% approval.

If you can do this globally, why would you waste 2 to 4 tiles on every planet in your empire that you could use to increase your economy, or production, or research, or all three?

Maybe they should make the basic moral building, Multimedia Center

Actually, Multimedia is the level 2 building - Entertainment Network is the level 1 and has 5 morale, 55 cost, and 1 maint

Actually, Multimedia is the level 2 building - Entertainment Network is the level 1 and has 5 morale, 55 cost, and 1 maint

Bahh, nitpicking, nitpicking    

I agree, sorry for that, my bad.


Monc34

gallagher.

No, saying that stock markets are better than morale buildings is not vague. Implying though that fixing that one problem plus balancing the rest of the game plus designing a.i. that takes maximum advantage of all mechanics in the game and still expect the game to offer any options at all, which was the gist of your original foolish post, is dumb.