I agree with you 100%, Karanic!!!! The alignment "tech" in Galciv 2 is very cheesy. It just doesn't feel right. I hope they can put in an option in the expansion pack to go back to the old way.

You just reminded me why I stopped playing Galciv 2.

You just reminded me why I stopped playing Galciv 2

Why visit the forum and not play the game? Strange...

I also agree - plus the fact that the game is totally biased towards the evil alignment anyway... For example, I got the event where there are the "Pods" that look remarkably like the eggs from Alien 1,2,3. The good choice is naff, the neutral one was about 3% inrease on research, but the evil one was about 60%.... So, I chose evil..... More events, always pick evil.... You end up with planets with either great increases in production (slaves), research (the pods etc), or defence etc etc.

Then, you think "Before a good race tries to start with me, I've had a luagh, now to research the Ethics tech", and then ye just pick good.... How lame. I was actually thinking of eithe making it really, really expensive, or making it into a null tech branch.

Its not just this that has put me off the game a bit.... After winning the campaign a couple of times, and winning the sandbox mode, I've gotten a little bored with the game... What I would like to see is some more hulls etc for download as a self extraction file like Microsoft does.

Good gets plenty of bonuses.

This area of the game needs to be worked on to give it more flavor, dimention, etc that is lacking in it now

I agree that the alignments could do with further development, refining (suspect its not going to happen until expansion or GC 3) but I really like the basic alignment concept of the game. Dislike, when someone says scrap it or take it out. I say tinker with it, to make it even better, make evil and good more powerful so that they r in line with neutral (not the other way round, ie... weaken neutral). The ethical choices should continue throughout the game, with possible forced alignment change if u stray too far from your ethical path? Of course the enforced alignment change would result in penaltys...

Good gets lots of bonuses. They are viewed be other good and neutral civ's in a friendlier way, making diplomacy a lot easier, and not to mention, in v1.2 the combat system is being redone, so defenses will actually be useful on ships, making the good defensive bonus (finally) a great ability.

I agree that paying a fine and becoming something you are not is more than a little strange; I tend to avoid the ethics branch until late anyway since I like getting random issues as it is. I think there is large room for improvement in this part of the game though

Random issues and the morality play that is gotten out of it is one of the things that give this game a more complete feel. Stately. However, in addition to the alignment tech I find the issues too obvious (always one good, neutral and evil option) and not contraversial enough.

Anyone remember Castles? In my memory that was the first game that used this sort of multiple-choice event to argument gameplay, and unlike either galciv, castles had their issues linked into plots; Each choice would lead to a new choice as time went on, and all affected your alignment and relations with your peers.

Let's take the research pods for example. You could refuse them, but then you'd need to deal with both the pods themselves (they are growing on the planet after all, you might fall in a patch with rather enlighening and painful results) and deal with the fringe element of your society that would not heed your warnings and use them anyway. You could embrace the pods, and have to deal with the health problems that your empire would incurr, or even try to export them off the planet, in an attempt to give all your people knowledge at the price of agony.

I wrote a whole slew of what and how I think that could be done elsewhere, but that is 'tooting my own horn' I suppose.

Then again, so is this. :3

What I would like to see is some more hulls etc for download as a self extraction file like Microsoft does.

I hope you don't think Microsoft actually invented this idea, they stole it, like just about everything else they have/do.

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Hey, good/evilexists in the game. If you don't like it, don't research the tech that gives you the alignment-fix. At elast you have a choice here.

Wow p22,

That's a great one !!!!

Yhat will feel sooo good playing as the evil Dreng ....

Being evil just gets better n better.