(reponse to taliesinangelus)

Does nobody read? I already said that updating my video driver will probably solve all or most of the crashing, I know this.

But why do I care about the game crashing when the game doesn't play properly to begin with? If the game is full of bugs, solving the crash issue doesn't improve my Galactic Civ 2 experience. The game is still heavily flawed, im simply not being INTERRUPTED while playing the heavily flawed game.

So, let me get this straight:

1. "the game crashes every 15 minutes. It sucks. it sucks!"
- Update your video driver. It'll fix the problem - and this fix has been stated numerous times in the documentation and the forums.

2. "Well I dont really care about that problem anyhow. The real problem is all the bugs"
- That does sound like a problem. What are the bugs you're having? We'll resolve them if possible.

3. "I don't have time to tell you the bugs, you need to figure that out yourself."
- But of the tens of thousands of other users, nobody is finding these a**load of bugs.

4. "Just play a big game and you'll find them. I'm too busy answering forum replies to my inane post to add helpful info."
- Sounds like we have an I-D-ten-T problem.

5. "You're all just fanboys."
- Ooh, good come back!


Seriously, dude, throw us a bone. Name just _two_ of the a**load of bugs you've encountered. Once they're known, that's two fewer in the system. (If they're really there)

He did list two gameplay bugs. Granted, the detail is sparse, but the 2nd bug mentioned should be simple to verify.

I've got a 700% production planet I can't build a star port anymore making it effectively useless. I have a Galactic Law that works the exact opposite way it supposed to, taxing me thousands of BC for enemies sticking their starbases in my terrirtory, instead of taxing them and basically ruining my entire economy in the process.

(response to Scrotty)

Nope, no bones. Not for you or Stardock. I will however respond to your lame screed before I leave.

1. The game does suck right now, but not because of the crashing.

2. Yes, the real problem is the gameplay bugs. I've said it about 10 times now, and I've also said its not my responsibility to report them. Get it through your thick skull.

3. Wrong. Many people ARE finding the bugs and many of them are being reported. I guess they have a lot of free time. I don't, and I merely came here to express my frustration and to bring up an issue thats critical if PC gaming is going to stop circling the toilet bowl. For this, I am being accosted by asshats like you who defend Stardock rather than acknowledge the actual PROBLEM which is releasing an incomplete game.

4. Yes I have been busy answering forum replies..... but that ends now since its not accomplishing anything.

5. Anyone defending Stardock without acknowledging the central issue at hand IS a fanboy, and I hope you die in a fire.

Adios.

Before this gets locked, I want to add that Citizen Hereticked is also free to get on the Stardock IRC channel and talk with developers and fellow gamers about his or her issue. He or she may get a more immediate response and may be asked questions that may help him or her make this post more constructive in its exploration of the problems he or she has encountered.

But of course Citizen Hereticked is also free to sit and stew in his or her unhappiness. It is up to Citizen Hereticked, of course.

Taliesinangelus, is there an option where Citizen Hereticked learns not to fight forum battles with a rusty spoon of poorly worded, misdirected anger?

>5. Anyone defending Stardock without acknowledging the central issue at hand IS a fanboy, and I hope you die in a fire.

I hope I'm not the only one reading this who thinks that's a *little* harsh. On the one hand he does have a point, he's not required to submit bug reports. On the other hand if you're actually enjoying the game, bugs aside, it's not a lot effort help make it better.

Doubtless this post will doom me to fiery torment..

Cheers.

>5. Anyone defending Stardock without acknowledging the central issue at hand IS a fanboy, and I hope you die in a fire.

I hope I'm not the only one reading this who thinks that's a *little* harsh. On the one hand he does have a point, he's not required to submit bug reports. On the other hand if you're actually enjoying the game, bugs aside, it's not a lot of effort to help make it better.

Doubtless this post will doom me to fiery torment..

Cheers.

(Sorry about the double post)

Have you noticed that Hereticked has still not -- in eleven(!) posts to this thread -- mentioned a single bug?

I think what really happened was that he was (understandably) pissed off that the game kept crashing and vented on this forum in a typical, hyperbole-filled manner. When it was pointed out that this fix was simple and documented, he became ashamed. There really were no a**load of bugs, just the one.

If I'm wrong, post one. One!

(Hereticked is now poring though the forum for legitimate bug reports that he can claim as his own. By the way, buddy, make sure the one you pick isn't one that's already been fixed.)

I know there are bugs in this game. I grab every patch that comes out. But to say it won't be playable for months because it's riddled full of problems is nonsense.

I was wondering why he kept saying that everyone was avoiding the issue at hand, that the gameplay is buggy, and yet he never made a single point or reference to these terrible, doomsday bugs he has been suffering.

You want a bug?

Try Rome Total War v1.0 Retail only letting 30 people into the online entrance lobby at once, and crashing instantly when 30 people were in.

If you're going to rant, do it right. Quit whining about bugs without naming a single one, update your drivers and stop talking mush. If you're fed up with the replies you're getting, stop posting. The replies aren't going to change because you seem to have failed to make a single valid point in any of your threads. Remember, arguments have POINTS.

I noticed that you had posted the UP bug after I made my previous post. Since I'm getting long server errors when I try to edit said post, just imagine that I acknowledged your 1 bug, and one possible bug that could just be put down as poor planning.

Edit: should stay out of this