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Reply #26 February 26, 2006 11:58:39 AM
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*bump* Is it fixed in 1.D1.008?
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Reply #27 February 26, 2006 12:37:36 PM
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The social production & research bonus problems are definitely not fixed in 1.D1.008.


In Stardock's defense, I understand that they are more focused on stability bugs and completely broken features right now. Rechecking the economic calculations is probably lower on their priority list. But still, can we get some sort of official explanation of
- quantitatively how the economy and bonuses are supposed to work
- whether and when the social/research bonus issues will be fixed

Please?
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Reply #28 February 26, 2006 1:44:30 PM
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Not to mention all the other mathematical stuff that doesn't work: Moral calculation (and the difference when hovering over the values), population growth modifiers, research from economic starbases etc etc.... It's like almost nothing is working as it should.
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Reply #29 February 26, 2006 1:52:27 PM
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In Stardock's defense, I understand that they are more focused on stability bugs and completely broken features right now.


social, research production bonus should be the first bugs to be fixed because they affect gameplay more than other minor bugs.Morale calculation, population growth modifiers are also major bugs that need to be addressed ASAP
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Reply #30 February 26, 2006 3:47:43 PM
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Looking at post #3 in the following thread https://forums.galciv2.com/?ForumID=162&AID=103199 , it seems that the social production bug be fixed

Now, for the empire research bonus, I am not sure if it is a bug since you get free research. But calculation should be documented in the game.
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Reply #31 February 28, 2006 2:42:38 AM
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The best would be if we could determine military, social and research production for each planet.

In my point of view , I would forget all these central "spending rates" things. It would be grateful if I could build ships in one planet with full production and researching on the other with the same throttle. I think that's a bit stupid that I can't build ships on one planet with full production (as far as my budget allows of course) because I need to build up a building on an other planet or I want to research fast on a third.

I would do the following:
Delete those spending rates from central budget and put them to the planet window. Each bar would represent what rate are the military/social/research production is working. Military and social are mutually exclusive.
Example:
I have 1 basic factory and 1 basic research facility: so my maximum capacities are 8 mp and 5 tp. If I set military bar to maxiumum, i produce 8 mp, that costs me 8 bc. If I set it 50%: 4 mp costs 4 bc. I can use up the remaining 4 mp to social if i want to by setting social bar to 50%. If I set it higher, the military bar will be lowered automatically.
But If I want to I can set research bar to maximum apart from production bars.

And what if I can do this on each planet? I can build ships fast on one planet with eg manufacturing capital, while I "research" plenty of 'tp's on another with eg technological capital. And meanwhile I can make new planets build their social buildings fast instead of producting 1or 2 tp or needless military mp.
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Reply #32 February 28, 2006 3:03:40 AM
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Delete those spending rates from central budget and put them to the planet window.

Well, it will increase micromanagement, and I don't think lots of people will love this. And don't forget tht the computer will surely be better than you at micromanaging: it is never tired
And managing lots of planets in a gigantic galaxy won't be fun
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Reply #33 February 28, 2006 3:23:21 PM
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Create custom race. Save. Load. 10% Social/Military bonus out of nowhere, and +4% logistics bonus.
Save. Load. 20% S/M bonus, 8% L bonues.
Save. Load. 30% S/M bonus, 12% L Bonus.
Save. Load. 10% S/M bonus, 16% L bonus.
Save. Load. 20% S/M bonus, 20% L bonus.
etc etc.
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Reply #34 February 28, 2006 5:44:25 PM
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The best would be if we could determine military, social and research production for each planet.

It is gameplay factor. It is a balance act that you have to do. You always can use focus if you want... but that will cost you. This is where the game interesting - you have to make those choices.
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