I haven't been able to bribe even an ally into going to war against anyone else since the early versions of the game. In my opinion, it was too easy, and now it's too damned hard.

Agreed. A few thousand BCr is obviously too cheap, but it's swung too far the other way.

What difficulty level are you playing on? Is it still easy to bribe them on the easy levels?

You know what I don't get, when an ally of yours goes to war with another civ you have to either help them or the allience is off, but if you go to war with another civ your ally NEVER helps you, but the allience is still on. WHAT THE FUCK!

Alliance only activate if a civ declares on you (i think) So just surround their worlds with transports and theyll declare pretty quick.

I meant either way, and besides they never help me, those stupid whinged rats from hell!

What difficulty level are you playing on? Is it still easy to bribe them on the easy levels?

i have now idea, pretty much all of my games have been on crippling, with the 1.3 beta its 1 level down. so i have no idea how it goes on easy levels.
but still, the option now is just a waste of space on my harddrive lol

also what i would like, is to be able to call in an ally whenever i want.
so clan A declares on me, B is my ally but they shouldn't come in right away, what i want is TO BE ABLE to call in B if i want to, if not he should just mind his own business.

and teams, i still want to be able to form teams or coalitions. but i doubt thats gonna be in this game very soon

As far as the bribing thing, it'd be nice if you could ally declare and have some sort of agreement on who will attack where and how the spoils of war would be resolve. Even something as simple as: I will attack the planets in order ABCDE. You will attack the planets in order CDEBA. Once our enemy is defeated the planets will be split the following way: Me: A,B You; D,E Whoever takes C get's C.

i think this is not as easy to program, so don't get your hopes up hehe.
but yea it would be nice.

if you mean to have an option of "declare war" it think it's a good idea! why do we need to attck the enemy ship for "declaring" war on them?! let's make it official!

Well, that's essentially what you do when you choose to support an ally who has been attacked. Otherwise, though, why would you want to declare war BEFORE you got in the first strike? Seems pointless to me, backwards even. Perhaps you could come up with a diplomatic reason, but I can't see one right now.

The fact that somebody would have to spray on some serious cheeze-whiz to get an ally to support one in war, seems like a good reason to make it easier to be able to bribe them. The cheese I'm talking about is putting transports right by enemy planets just to get a reaction. Of course a human player would see right through this and would know that he'd just be walking into a snakes' den of allies if he attacked the transports. If an opponent wouldn't "naturally" declare war on you but you want your allies to support you in a war against him, you should have to bribe them into their help even though they're allies. How do you think the US got Bulgaria and Turkey as major members of our glorious "coalition of the willing"?

I mean, if we have a bigger army then the enemy, we'll sent them warnings like:

"Surrender or die" "Give us all your moneny and surrender" "If you won't give us what we ask for, we will declare war"

things like this..

I mean, if we have a bigger army then the enemy, we'll sent them warnings like: "Surrender or die" "Give us all your moneny and surrender" "If you won't give us what we ask for, we will declare war" things like this..

You can already 'make demands'. Just propose a trade where you give them nothing, and they give you some money, techs, etc. If you have sufficient power and haven't made too many demands already, they'll do it.

Yes purchasing starbases and planets was made impossible at the same time as the bribing for war. that was a huge overkill.

I think we need to mod GC2_Conversations.xml but if we really what demands we'll need to contact stardock and only in the expansion it will become possible... more diplomatic options for more attack abilities...

and one more thing you can say to your enemy:

"You will join us or die!" (star wars) another way to say the AI give me all your influence points!

You can already 'make demands'. Just propose a trade where you give them nothing, and they give you some money, techs, etc. If you have sufficient power and haven't made too many demands already, they'll do it.

Yeah you can, in theory, make demand but does the AI ever comply, NO.