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DrJBHL
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Reply #26 October 7, 2018 1:29:47 PM
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I was among the insiders whose complete profiles where emptied after the 1809 update. I reported that, that was about 6 weeks ago... Now I wonder how 'efficient' the insider program really is.

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Reply #27 October 7, 2018 2:49:33 PM
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Is 1809 the fast ring? Because mine says 1804 and I still have all my stuff.

Edit: To find which updates you got. Go to settings > Update and security > view update history.

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Reply #28 October 7, 2018 9:22:08 PM
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The term anal retentive (also anally retentive), often abbreviated to anal,

is used to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that it

becomes an obsession and may be an annoyance to others,

potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person.

People who pay no attention to detail what so ever can also

become an annoyance to others.

We all may be developing a psychosis.

psychosis definition: a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired

that contact is lost with external reality.

 

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Reply #29 October 7, 2018 10:03:02 PM
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Iben...sometimes I think "you're in a world of your own...that no-one else can share...." ...

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Reply #30 October 7, 2018 10:38:19 PM
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Quoting Jafo,
reply 29

Iben...sometimes I think "you're in a world of your own...that no-one else can share...." ...

Yeah, I've sometimes had that thought..... but then, I've met other people suffering with psychosis who express themselves somewhat poetically.

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Reply #31 October 8, 2018 6:58:52 AM
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I feel like I been upstaged.   

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Reply #32 October 8, 2018 10:19:29 AM
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Quoting DaveRI,
reply 19


Quoting JcRabbit,
reply 10

enforcing major updates twice a year



That's the part that I just don't get.  I have no idea what rational could be behind that, even if they all came out flawlessly.  It seems rather pointless really, kind of like constantly re-arranging the office furniture.

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year is that windows should be more modular so that they can improve components easily without huge changes with massive gaps (95->98->xp->7> etc)

the enforced upgrade is somewhat understandable though not necessarily desirable because it'll be easier to maintain fewer versions and places most users (ie the ones who just use the stuff) in the most secure environment.

 

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Reply #33 October 8, 2018 2:09:13 PM
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Quoting alaknebs,
reply 32

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year

Thanks for passing that along.  It doesn't change my opinion though.  Way too much thrashing about on my machine twice a year, for what I perceive to be very little real benefit (as opposed to the occasional Service Pack release method.)  It seems like they're creating a lot of work, everywhere, needlessly.

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Reply #34 October 8, 2018 10:52:53 PM
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Quoting DaveRI,
reply 33


Quoting alaknebs,
reply 32

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year



Thanks for passing that along.  It doesn't change my opinion though.  Way too much thrashing about on my machine twice a year, for what I perceive to be very little real benefit (as opposed to the occasional Service Pack release method.)  It seems like they're creating a lot of work, everywhere, needlessly.

Yup, way more work than is necessary.  And the fact that they are forced updates that can break users machines is another kind of cyber bullying.  Given the number of people experiencing issues after updates, I'm sure there are millions who fear updates day.

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Reply #35 October 9, 2018 8:30:10 AM
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I was one of the lucky one's. Mine upgraded without any problems. Now I'm kinda curious of how their going to fix the patch for those who already have it. 

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Reply #36 October 9, 2018 8:50:27 AM
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Quoting ALMonty,
reply 35

Now I'm kinda curious of how their going to fix the patch for those who already have it. 

I'm more interested in how they are going to restore the lost files/work/etc .... and survive the possible class action suit.

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Reply #37 October 9, 2018 9:24:33 AM
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Quoting Jafo,
reply 36
I'm more interested in how they are going to restore the lost files/work/etc .... and survive the possible class action suit.

Unfortunately their EULA seems to protect them from a class action suit due to lost data. Which is a pity, as I would like to watch them get sued to see if this forced updates every 6 months without proper QA testing madness stops.

If someone has lost data, they are probably sh*t out of luck, as the data seems to be deleted pretty early in the update process and a lot of data is shuffled around after that. I've read that this is particularly worse for SSD users, because, unlike hard disks, SSDs seem to blank out (Trim) the cells where the data was stored once the files are deleted.

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Reply #38 October 9, 2018 9:56:32 AM
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I'm so happy my current PC runs Windows 8.

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Reply #39 October 9, 2018 9:34:52 PM
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bear in mind how linux distros have similar upgrade patterns. of course, they are different in that it's not forced and they tell you upfront that if it's working, you don't need to bother changing.

or how chrome os is updated every month, though that's a lot less complex with less hardware variations.

 

Quoting c242,
reply 26

I was among the insiders whose complete profiles where emptied after the 1809 update. I reported that, that was about 6 weeks ago... Now I wonder how 'efficient' the insider program really is.

just being curious.. did you mess about with group editor? wondering if anyone not tweaking stuff got hit by the profile delete issue. because that'll tell you how many ordinary users will be hit and how big a problem ms has.

 

---

turns out it's not gpe.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/10/09/updated-version-of-windows-10-october-2018-update-released-to-windows-insiders/

did you fall under any of those cases?

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Reply #40 October 9, 2018 9:54:23 PM
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I read that they patched the October update and are re releasing it.

I don't update anymore and on one computer I don't keep the files in the computer.

You might say I live in a world of my own.

 

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Reply #41 October 9, 2018 11:14:19 PM
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I just got the patch today.

 

October 9, 2018—KB4464330 (OS Build 17763.55)


Improvements and fixes

This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:
•Addresses an issue where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely delete user profiles on devices subject to the "Delete user profiles older than a specified number of day” group policy.
•Security updates to Windows Kernel, Microsoft Graphics Component, Microsoft Scripting Engine, Internet Explorer, Windows Storage and Filesystems, Windows Linux, Windows Wireless Networking, Windows MSXML, the Microsoft JET Database Engine, Windows Peripherals, Microsoft Edge, Windows Media Player, and Internet Explorer.

If you installed earlier updates, only the new fixes contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

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Reply #42 October 10, 2018 12:59:01 AM
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Quoting Iben,
reply 40

I read that they patched the October update and are re releasing it.

I'm still going to wait a while before I look at updating, which I will do manually because I'll not activate auto updates again, not after this MS cock-up and my last debacle with programs being uninstalled/made inactive.

Quoting Iben,
reply 40

I don't update anymore and on one computer I don't keep the files in the computer.

I don't keep important files on my PC, either, and what is on my PC is backed up to external drives that are turned on only as needed.  All my most important files are stored on external drives that again are turned on as required, thus keeping them safe from MS cock-ups.

Quoting Iben,
reply 40

You might say I live in a world of my own.

Yeah, me too.  I don't get out much these days, and don't get to socialise a lot, so I spend a fair bit of time in my man cave on the computer, talking to other kooks and nut-jobs on WC.

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Reply #43 October 10, 2018 10:01:22 AM
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Hey!  I resemble that remark.

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Reply #44 October 10, 2018 12:12:56 PM
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going to ABOUT didn't work.. I will find it ......... I have had no probs now since .... Back then.. No Black screen

 

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Reply #45 October 10, 2018 12:17:08 PM
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Sed my black screen has been gone for a couple days now too.

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Reply #46 October 10, 2018 12:40:33 PM
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I got one. When I updated to v1809 everything went smooth, then yesterday there was a new patch. I restarted and got a black screen. I had to login twice to get to the desktop.

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Reply #47 October 10, 2018 1:08:58 PM
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I recommend reading this article - the October Update has been re-released to insiders.

 

www.pcworld.com/article/3312642/windows/microsoft-restarts-windows-10-october-2018-update-blaming-data-loss-on-

misdirected-folders.html

 

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Reply #48 October 10, 2018 1:13:51 PM
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Quoting ALMonty,
reply 46

I restarted and got a black screen. I had to login twice to get to the desktop.

Did you log in as a Standard (Non-Admin) user or an Admin user?  I had been experiencing that occasionally after updates.  After trying a couple of different things, I think I may be avoiding it by logging in as an Admin user immediately after an update (I normally log in as Standard).  It's a little tough to tell for sure, other than I haven't been experiencing the issue for several months now after doing that.

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Reply #49 October 10, 2018 6:30:04 PM
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I do not have any problems with Windows 10 1809.  It installed itself last night.  Edge is not having any issues here.  Windows drag no longer malfunctions and the min/max close buttons are all working in WindowBlinds.

Sorry I do not have any MS FUD feed for anyone.

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Reply #50 October 10, 2018 7:20:29 PM
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Which version of Windowblinds?

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