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MS giveth and MS taketh away

Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

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November 22, 2015 9:36:11 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

I read the article, wasn't too impressed simply because MS continues to pull all kinds of BS without telling anyone. Don't mind the repetition in the article, just scroll down to the last paragraph.

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Reply #1 November 22, 2015 9:49:09 AM
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Just another Microshit screw-up. 

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Reply #2 November 22, 2015 12:36:03 PM
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Well now that's disappointing.  I'm really not fond of that upgrade/reinstall process to get a clean installation.  Thanks for the post Uvah.

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Reply #3 November 22, 2015 12:58:33 PM
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I'm glad I stuck with 8.1. I feel sorry for the average PC user that have to deal with all these Win 10 updates.

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Reply #4 November 22, 2015 1:01:47 PM
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good thing i burnt the dvd...... and have the iso

 

it's idiotic. the best thing for me with threshold 2 is that i can clean install win10 with win 7 key without messing about with upgrading 1st. afaik, trying to install win 7 on skylake requires a bit of fiddling. i guess they are trying to get people to buy win10 instead of using their old win7 retails keys when getting a new machine?

 

whilst one can understand why recent win10 rtm installers won't get threshold for a bit, i fail to see why new 7/8upgraders now shouldn't be able to get threshold2 directly and be able to roll back to win7/8 from threshold 2 if they choose so within the 30 days....

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Reply #5 November 22, 2015 4:53:50 PM
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I'm staying with my 8.1. All this BS with MS is getting out of hands.

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Reply #6 November 22, 2015 5:04:19 PM
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Well while it may seem stupid and idiotic are not MS allowed to do as they wish with how they deliver updates?. After all they do own the OS and can decide how and when updates are delivered for it. We may not like it, We may piss and moan about it but in the end like sheep we will just bend over and take it.

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Reply #7 November 22, 2015 5:42:29 PM
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No, you bend over and take it.  I block the OS from communicating with the update server if they don't play nice and give me ways to circumvent it otherwise.

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Reply #8 November 22, 2015 6:14:41 PM
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Quoting Uvah,
reply 5

I'm staying with my 8.1. All this BS with MS is getting out of hands.

Plus we get to use WindowBlinds.

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Reply #9 November 22, 2015 9:13:16 PM
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Last I checked windows 10 was still a free upgrade for home users, you get what you pay for 

 

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Reply #10 November 22, 2015 10:08:06 PM
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At the rate Microsoft is going you can expect the next version is probably going  to flop. I don't know why anyone would stick with 8.1 it sucks. At least in 10 they brought back the start menu. Anyways the only reason why people change operating systems is because someone convinced software dealers to obsolete operating systems. Different operating systems is minor for computer operating if they didn't obsolete I would never upgrade especially considering the loss of power with the scaling down of Dos. I also want to point out it was dirty of Microsoft to sue bookman's for selling used Microsoft software, Even if I hadn't downloaded 10 for free. How different are these operating systems anyway. Who cares that Microsoft revoked windows 10 for free. You are pretty much the same until they obsolete your operating system.

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Reply #11 November 23, 2015 12:10:31 AM
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Microsoft's response to criticism to their move does not bear out..........me thinks something is up with the November Update. I updated via the media creation tool and ISO's and I am not seeing any issues with my rigs.......but there have been talks about a bitlocker issue. We'll see    

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Reply #12 November 23, 2015 12:05:18 PM
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that only makes sense as a (1 month) delaying tactic

 

 

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/22/microsoft-makes-windows-10-version-1511-a-windows-update-exclusive/

speculation of there being a key glitch not giving right version

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Reply #13 November 23, 2015 10:36:55 PM
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That's interesting.

MS will sort it out. I see on some sites that people are saying that they've done away with their QA and relying on feedback from their 'insiders'. I can't believe that's true. Surely not. Internal QA has to play an important role prior to release.

My own personal experience with 10 is great and I would not want to go back to 7 or 8.1, for love nor money...........but I have full confidence that MS will sort out this issue and the OS will go from strength to strength. 

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Reply #14 November 24, 2015 6:42:09 AM
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Because MS refuses to offer credible explanations for their actions, IMO, they cannot be trusted. I will not trust them. Period! Besides......I have the 1511 ISO.

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Reply #15 November 24, 2015 10:35:14 AM
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Free 'til June.

 

I can wait to upgrade.

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Reply #16 November 24, 2015 1:27:38 PM
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This is probably related to the Bitlocker problem with some upgrades vs. clean installs.  I'm sure it will be resolved shortly.

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Reply #17 November 24, 2015 9:33:34 PM
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Update..........http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-restores-windows-10-november-update-media-explains-why-it-was-pulled

 

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Reply #18 November 25, 2015 12:24:55 AM
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http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/24/beware-latest-windows-10-update-may-remove-programs-automatically/

 

unclear to me what it means by removing program... as cpuz doesn't really need installation?

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Reply #19 November 25, 2015 7:30:41 AM
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According to what I read the programs Win10 takes out it considers potentially harmful to the machine but you can reinstall them afterwards. Like cpuz speccy doesn't need to be installed either so I fail to see any logic in that. As for reinstating CMT, that's a good thing.

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Reply #20 November 25, 2015 11:06:58 AM
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Quoting alaknebs,
reply 18

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/24/beware-latest-windows-10-update-may-remove-programs-automatically/

 

unclear to me what it means by removing program... as cpuz doesn't really need installation?

I keep getting a notification that Cpuz was removed, due to incompatibility issues, but it is still installed and runs, on Win10.

 

Odd.

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Reply #21 November 25, 2015 11:23:00 AM
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Well, yesterday my laptop would not show the update to Build 10586 in Windows Update, and today it does, so I guess they fixed the issues. Now if I can only find out where to download the ISO's.... anyone know? 

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Reply #22 November 25, 2015 11:36:11 AM
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.https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/techbench

 

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Reply #23 November 25, 2015 1:40:10 PM
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Thank you Ross! 

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Reply #24 November 25, 2015 2:52:23 PM
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Not sure what Tech Bench means or if it's the version I'd want.

From link page:

"

Windows 10 ISO Downloads

Make sure to download both 32-bit and 64-bit images and the languages you'll need for your retail location."
 
 

Any info?

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Reply #25 November 25, 2015 3:22:15 PM
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just use their media creation tool. or maybe give it a day just in case. .

 

why the hell are they calling it the same build name.... if they fixed whatever it was..

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