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Windows 8 - I did it!

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Leo the Lion
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Reply #26 January 12, 2014 11:20:26 PM
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Quoting RedneckDude,
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Actually, a hard shutdown in Windows 8 is actually a hybrid shutdown/hibernate, Mark.

 I have Hibernate disabled, so no, it is a cold boot.

However, my fast boot times are not Windows based but the result of Quick Start settings in the BIOS.   As I said before, my rig does not go all through the BIOS postings or menus listing drives and memory, etc, but straight to the boot screen.  That takes about 4-5 seconds.  This is where I save the time.  I further save time by disabling the lock and login screens, but that is minimal compared to the 30 - 40 seconds saved through bypassing the BIOS post.

True, having an 8 core AMD FX 9350 @ 4.0ghz and an SSD has boosted performance, but these don't really come into play until the OS has loaded. No, it is the UEFI BIOS that provides the rapid startup.  I was running a Gigabyte GA-990FXA UD5 with a Legacy BIOS up until a few weeks ago, and my boot times were similar to yours, well around 25-30 seconds, but that board sort of became obsolete and was replaced with an Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, which is a Republic of Gamers special edition with some performance enhancing features... namely an ultra-quick UEFI start up.

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Reply #27 January 12, 2014 11:26:18 PM
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Mark, an antivirus program won't even load in 6 seconds.  Your wifi/net has to have a few seconds to find an IP address......get real, man.  

 

Have it your way. No point in going on. Go over to TechRepublic and straighten them out for me, will ya?  

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Reply #28 January 12, 2014 11:38:42 PM
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Sorry again, Leo. I'm outta here. 

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Reply #29 January 13, 2014 12:36:55 AM
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Quoting RedneckDude,
reply 27
Mark, an antivirus program won't even load in 6 seconds. Your wifi/net has to have a few seconds to find an IP address......get real, man.

I dunno, Jim, I'm not talking about AV or WiFi.   I am, however, talking about a working desktop in 6-8 seconds using quick start in UEFI.. It's not impossible!

Here's a link to a forum entry on Toms Hardware refering to Win 8 UEFI boot times on Youtube being under 10 seconds

And here's a clip showing an 8 second start.  Like I said, it IS possible.

Here's another... 6 second start

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Reply #30 January 13, 2014 12:39:15 AM
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If you just care for the overall boot time, however, you can draw exact numbers for your past couple of boots from the Windows Event Viewer.

Click [Windows] + [W] to jump directly to Search, type event, and select View event logs. In the Event Viewer, navigate to > Applications and Services Logs > Microsoft > Windows > Diagnostics Performance. You can now view the log file that contains all events in that category. The Event ID you are looking for is 100.

 

Post a screeny here for us, Mark.

 

I know it's possible, but not from a cold boot. You are in hybrid hibernation, even if you won't admit it.

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Reply #31 January 13, 2014 12:40:26 AM
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Quoting starkers,
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I dunno, Jim, I'm not talking about AV or WiFi

Booting to a fully operational desktop includes A/V load time and internet connection.

 

The clip only proves that you can boot from hybrid hibernation in 8 seconds. It is NOT a full cold boot, Mark.

 

I am not going to respond here again because you won't listen or admit when you're proven wrong. It's pointless. You win.

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Reply #32 January 13, 2014 1:33:46 AM
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"I am not going to respond here again because you won't listen or admit when you're proven wrong. It's pointless. You win."

Now Now Jim, Don't give up yet, I am learning some stuff here.

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Reply #33 January 13, 2014 1:50:42 AM
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My brother had a computer which started up in about 6 seconds and he didn't even have an SSD ... just an overclocked AMD quadcore running at 4 GHz ... until he changed some hardware and then it took a lot longer, he was pretty frustrated about it. I don't remember the details, but I agree with starkers here: it is possible, with the right hardware and a bit of luck.

My windows computer at work also has a good hardware set-up, it also takes little time to get to the login screen, and also very little time to load the desktop after that. My boss is good with computer hardware and chose a good setup. This one has an SSD though, that helps of course.

Compare that to my computer before I had the SSD. Startup took almost 1 minute. Then the login screen. The further loading of all kinds of drivers and shit, it took another full minute before the computer became responsive again. Total load time was about 2 minutes... I was about to throw my computer out of the window, that's when I bought the SSD and now the load times are ok again.

Or maybe it was because my HDD was dying... it has more or less crashed by now, I cannot start up with my original HDD included for some reason. Or maybe my motherboard is dying or maybe the cables are crap ...

Who knows... it's a mysterious world sometimes.

 

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Reply #34 January 13, 2014 2:24:25 AM
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Quoting GeomanNL,
reply 33
I don't remember the details, but I agree with starkers here: it is possible, with the right hardware and a bit of luck.

Same here! I agree with me too.  In fact, I dare not argue with me because I'm always right.  That's the first rule of conversation with me.  And even when I'm wrong I refer myself to rule #1.  Works every time.

As for the bit of luck, it's not such a requirement anymore, not with UEFI enabled mobos making the task of tweaking things so much easier.... and that's where the ultra fast boot times are made possible.  When I was running a board with a Legacy BIOS, no amount of tweaking in Windows would break the 25 - 30 second barrier.  Disabling non-essential services and processes, the lock and login screens, bought a few seconds, but that was as low as I could get it until the UEFI mobo upgrade. 

That's when the ultra fast boot magic began, but somehow that snippet seems to have been lost in translation.

Feching internet... has a lot to answer for.

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