Red alert, release date will only become official once Yuri himself shows up at some developping station burried under pile of virtual rumors worth blowing -- remotely by hitting *Press any key* to compile!

I'll tell you exactly who's turning in a grave - the whole team signed for *IT*, and not Westwood.

All bets are off, will they beat Blizzard's Starcraft Two to the wire?

However,

after playing CnC3,  I knew westwood was dead, it was just not the same.

Apparently nobody explained to the marketing team that every past C&C game has MCVs already--not to mention the Terrans in Starcraft and any other games with similar mechanics.

"sigh" sad that a lot of gaming companies have forgotten the telltale quote of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". of course in this case EA is thinking if it ain't broke then lets make it even better by putting a bunch of unnecessary junk just to get a bigger buck.

And Universe at War (Hierarchy), and Total Annihilation: Kingdoms (the jungle side), and probably others. 

I've been mourning Westwood since the Zero hour C&C came out

Is C&C 4 going to be a Demigod clone?  One of the best parts of C&C was its lack of a unit limit and expendable units.

The bit that makes me giggle about 'first mobile base' is that you don't even need to look into Ancient History for an example - Supreme Commander had the fatboy, which was explicitly a mobile factory, airpad, shield station and artillery post. And this was far from the first such concept, but it's one that even if you hadn't been in the scene years ago, y'know, you really have no excuse to forget.

Westwood was absorbed, but majority of that team eventually left for Petroglyph.

DO WHAT?

Despite the numberous call outs to other games, CnC itself has had moble base platforms.  The Guardian from recent CnC 3?  Westwood itself introduced mobile factories in Tiberiun Sun: Firestorm. 

I've felt like EA totally George Lucased the series.  They keep going for 'campy' in Red Alert.  WTF about that plot was campy?  Sci Fi, yah, but for its time, it wasn't campy.  It was televeision movie quality science fiction.  Just because its plot was about Einstein traveling time to eliminate Hitler (oh thats so campy <.<) doesn't make it lighthearted and have no weight.  Whether I was a brutal soviet commander or an ally with his back against the wall, that game was awesome. There hasnt been a new CnC mission as good as the Tanya silo infiltration mission in classic RA, and thats saying something.

The degree to wich they are taking their 'gamers like it over the top' mentality in regards to CnC is rediculous.  I mean they rewrote the lore and continuity.  I can still remember when they were making Red Alert 2 and came out and said Red Alert is a seperate time line with nothing to do with CnC.  What?  Cuz it wasn't Kane there as Stalin's aide, possibly pulling some strings.  Meh. 

Course I expected better than Universe at War from the guys who made the original CnCs.  So who knows.

TA Kingdoms... was like.... sototallyamazing

Command and Conquer was great when the gameplay was as it was originally. It was pretty slow-paced, frustratingly hard, and while it was POSSIBLE, generally the game wasn't won by making a billion of UNIT_X and attack-moving them.

Starcraft I feel was a very overrated game, and frankly I despise it for the framework of mechanics it forced the RTS genre into. Now it *IS* about making a horde of units. You have your 'Infantry Barracks' generic building, your 'Supply Yard' generic building, your 'Research Center' generic building, etc. Most RTS games you can 'divide by Starcraft' and have just a handful of semi-unique ideas leftover.

The uniqueness that a game like Homeworld, Dawn of War, or World in Conflict brought to the table infinitely beat out the inane and cliched gameplay of Starcraft.

Ultimately, C&C went down the Starcraft route, giving us RA2, C&C3, Generals, etc. Starcraft and Starcraft-esque RTS games to me was really the 'console version' of RTS games. Focus on action, action, and more action.