There is also a bug with firefox, is that if the title is too long, and if you edit and the edit box will not show up

Also, if the post is too long in firefox, firefox just gies up showing the post and instead will give you black space with the border

jafo the rezonator, using impulse with explorer 8 can not find the modding threads, could this be another bug( incompatability) in the forums?

harpo

Beg pardon for sort of threadjacking, but does anyone know whether forum sign-in requires some third-party site transactions?

I've been trying for ages to figure out why other folks seem to use Opera with no problem, but I can't get a signin to process. Could it be because of something like my blocking content from googleanalytics.com?

firefox always scrolls slow when many messages or threads are displayed. And it's happening on Mac AND Windows for me.

And your site is the ONLY site that slows down that horribly.

I have several addons installed, among them AdBlock, RePagination (or occasionally AutoPager), Foxmarks. Disabling them has no effect.

The slowdown occurs even after the page completely loaded.

When I scroll down with the Pgdwn key, there's a tiny but noticable lag when FF tries to paint the message entries under XP. Lag is even worse under Mac, but the Mac has a slower CPU anyway. 

I ran some tests and the only way to get fast speed under FF was to disable stylesheets. Of course it looks like shit that way.

And regarding Safari, maybe this gives you a clue: When trying to drag the link-dialog, indead of dragging the window it drags a piece of text which even creates a link.  

Text: "javascript:;".  href the same.

And to add another browser:  Google Chrome doesn't work with quote buttons

That's a good question Philly. I also use IE8, but suffer none of the problems listed for the other browsers.

I don't think I've ever noticed extreme slowdown with FF3.0.  Are there any specific pages that cause such slowdowns?  Links would be preferable.

Safari is not high priority, but the next time we do a redesign I'll be sure to do some testing on it.

Chrome is also not high priority, but I'll take a look as to why quotes won't work next time I work on the design-side or javascript.

Good to hear that FF3.5 runs faster with the forums

Bara

From what I understand, the reason the quote buttons don't work in chrome is because chrome doesn't provide information as to what you're doing or what you've highlighted.   So when you highlight text, script running on the web-page can't tell so it treats it as if you had no text highlighted. 

Running FF3.0.10 at the moment from my classroom. Links in your OP load in about 2 seconds and scroll lightning fast. About the same as at home, though I'd expect my slower connection there is the cause for that.

I'd suspect a conflict with an extension.

I went to those links and they load and scroll as fast as any other site I've been to. I suspect it's a problem on your end, not Firefox (unless it's an extension) or the forums.

Bara

Just to give you an example how bad it is:

Opera (can't even login, only lurk):

4375ms

Firefox 3.0.1:

24689ms

And no, it's not my browser or my connection, every other site and forum from the US works just fine. And the 25 seconds rendertime are not even the worst. Sometimes it takes so long to load a page that I thought I'd get a timeout in Firefox.

It would be really nice if you guys could fix the site for Opera, it's one of the fastest and most secure browsers and this is the only commercial site I know that doesn't support it.

strangely opera works pretty well. the only reason I don't use it regularily are the lack of good plugins and the complete lack of support for the new mac multi-touch gestures.

not being able to login sounds like some security settings or blocked resource files. try deleting the opera settings and/or cache folders (backup sounds nice) and then login.

I've done a little bit of testing and I'm finding that it's the images that cause FF to be slow for me.  Using firebug, there's about 1Mb of data per page, mostly images  Most of the images are in the 50Kb range and there are lots of them (even smilies and small graphics), and the background image at the top is 221Kb, and the repeating background is pretty big as well.

Completely disabling images via the firefox webdeveloper extension makes the page scroll fast (normal).  I would suggest doing some overhaul of the graphics, there's no reason a smilie needs to be 60Kb

Yes, I also ran the net tracking stuff, along with the YSlow tools, and found the images to be quite heavy.  I'll see about finding a better format for handling images, possibly doing sprites for everything with the exception of smilies (since those are handled by TinyMCE, the 3rd party tool we use as a WYSIWYG editor).  I'll keep these in mind and find ways to decrease the overall size of images, especially for the Demigod and Elemental forums.

Bara