That's going to be an awesome game!  Good choice!

I have FC2 coming today and had FO3 preordered for a while. As much as I don't like that kind of DRM on principle, I'm not about to let it stand between me and an enjoyable game. That's just me, though The way I see it, the developers should get rewarded for their work, even if they aren't fortunate enough to have a company like Stardock doing the publishing.

It's the artists, designers, and coders who make the game - not buying it because of the DRM the publisher slaps on it hurts the developer more than the publisher, and I don't think they deserve that. The game industry is a pretty ruthless business as it is.

Your bit about not punishing the developers for the mistakes of the Publishers almost flies with me, with the exception of the fact that...

Sorry, but in this case, they're one in the same, and I just can't support this intrusive, customer-rights bashing DRM.

Any DRM that instals to Ring 0(the kernel) is not going on my machine, period.  Securom has already eaten one of my DVD-Rom drives.  Aside from that:

"Numerous customers have experienced problems with online activation of the PC version of Far Cry 2. Ubisoft Technical Support explained that the activation servers were experiencing problems." -Wikipedia, but also shown by a quick look around the Ubi forums, or the Steam forums for FC2.

I played RA3's beta and I'll be honest - It is a shame, because it's easily the best RTS game that EA has put out.  It's not annywhere near on the levels of Sins of a Solar Empire or Supreme Commander, though.

And these developers at Ubi Montreal can only make good games in that one studio?  This may sound cruel, but as a consumer, I would rather the studio shut down and the developers go to places that don't use DRM than fund more DRM.

Ubi Montreal is a seperate legal entity, but it was created by Ubisoft, is funded by Ubisoft, etc.  It meets all the requirements in my opinion to be fundamentally the same overarching company.  It's like trying to argue Warner Bros Studios isn't the same overall company as Time Warner. 

If there is a doctor in your town known for being a klutz and you have many reports of him doing damage to people, are you going to go to him, or anyone in his practice, because if you don't you'll cut into the pockets of his nursing staff?  I think the onus is on the nursing staff to go find a better doctor to be a nurse for, just as I think the developers are not tied to Ubisoft Montreal and will not suddenly become developers of awful games without them.

- EDIT - At the same time, I hope you enjoy FC2, it does look like a good game, one of the few worthy of $50, if only there wasn't this DRM. If they release a version without the DRM or a removal patch down the line, I'll snap it up.

The console version of Far Cry 2 was actually pirated FIRST.

Epic games is anything but now - I forget to mention them in my list of blacklisted companies because all they release is Epic Fail now.  And then they insult the PC customers that made them the company they are today?

UT3 was a peice of garbage - there was nothing really new or exciting, just prettier graphics than the last generation.  My friends and I still play UT2K4 but we didn't even keep the demo of UT3 around for a full week.

Oh, and Epic wouldn't release GoW 2 on PC because of the "ramapant piracy"

Well guess what, Epic?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/gears-of-war-2-leaked-on-torrent-sites

Looks like your deicison failed hard.

Left 4 dead was already a buy, I was waiting till post release for the others.

The ramapa piracy tha only let them sell another 1.5 million gears copies for the pc. Other then the hard core fans that wanted the extra levels I don't see how they could have sold much more.  Consider they only sold something like 4.5 on the xbox.....

I did enjoy the co-op but muliplayer was to full of .....well people worse then the halo crowd...... 

I'll add CDV to my personal blacklist. I still have a brand new copy of Codename Panzers: Phase 2 sitting on my desk, sealed, in the bag and with the original receipt from January 06. It's sealed because my drive went down before I could install it. Yep, you guessed it- Starforce. The way I look at it, they owe me for the cost of the game, as well as the cost of my DVD drive, and until I get that, they will NEVER get another cent out of me.

EA is another I will never do business with again. When I heard about Spore, I decided to try out the free creature creator. It was a lot of fun and had no DRM. Great. I decided to buy the full version, and damned ea slipped in SecuRom. There is no easy way to remove it. I have weeded out most of it, but there are still a couple of hidden files that I can see, but can't access. So, I get to spend a day reformatting my hard drive, and re-installing XP and every other program that I have. Rot in Hell Will Wright.

There is no game out there that is worth taking one up the backside for, so I'll keep my money in my pocket, and my sphincter tight.

Since Securom messed up my favourite (and a number of others) DVD burner program, and I had to spend four hours trying to get them back up and running, any game, no matter how good it is, will not get on my hard drive with that piece of $^#! "security" bundled in.

What's ironic is, I would have gladly paid for such games, because they are good, or I want to play them or whatever. But the "anti-consumer" measures are working well I guess. I also recently have developed another gripe with publishers, and that is making digital downloads exclusive to certain regions, usually USA, Canada and Mexico. Sorry guys, but I don't want to fork over double the game price because the dollar is weak right now, nor do I particulalry enjoy spending money on plastic boxes and DVD's I don't need.

And finally, its funny when you realize that both the XBox and PC versions of Far Cry 2 have been already pirated, despite the "anti-piracy" measures. As I said many times, I simply don't get why companies spend so much money on software which is not only useless, but damaging to their reputation as well.

If it's any consolation or indication, Galactic Civilizations 2 appears to be THE most unprofitable software to pirate for Chinese and Philippine hackers.  It's extremely difficult to find a pirated copy of this game, and when you do, it's obvious that it was hacked by some third stringer peon - the code has a tendency to CTD and it's missing the movies.

The last time I checked out the black market, there was no stock of GC2 or Dark Avatar - DA apparently never even made it out the code room.  People apparently don't want to pirate games that don't piss them off.  Imagine that.

Well for me now havign compagnie that will use no DRM i decided that i would buy their games. And simply hack those with DRM just for the DRM. The problem has just gotten way out fo hand it'S almost as if they wnat to controll you cpu to make sur eyou dont hack their game. Well sorry but that desn't float my boat.