I don't care about Google at all as long as they don't become parasitical (they aren't yet)

No, no such thing. Every so often I need to vent or my bipolar becomes tripolar and I run naked (orright, it's walk these days) through the neighbourhood putting anti-Google literature in everybody's letterboxes.... and I didn't want today being one of those days.

Besides, this way was more energy efficient for an old fart like me... and I don't get brought home wearing nothing but a police hat/cap.

Why Google???  Why Not!  Compared to Microsoft, which has copped buckets and buckets of criticism, Google is the new kid on the block and certainly warrants the attention.

In all honesty, though, I really don't like Google or its slimy practices to make a sleazy buck, so to the "begged Question....

... the answer is YES, Google does consider slimy, underhanded and invasive practices the standard.

Here's one for ya... I was listening to talkback radio a couple of days ago and a woman was complaining about the Google Maps thing that gets down to street level.  She said that she was looking up the street she lives in and saw quite a vivid image of a naked man standing near his window with an erection.  Apparently the camera paused on him for a while and she felt this was not appropriate material that children could easily access.  I agree, it should never have been posted on the net, period.

Hey, here's one for ya:

Opened FF3 and Chrome and after that, FF3 wouldn't behave correctly: kept getting the message "Interrupted" and couldn't logon to my email or WC....so, guess where Chrome went? The rust heap! True, it's only a beta, but I need dependable performance.

So, since it caused Gecko to malfunction, and because I'm a Doc I'm terming this new disease:

Doc

i was searching something ... and found this ......

As most of you have heard and many of you must be using Google's new web browser, the "Google Chrome". Its totally great to use and majority of Windows users will feel it more faster and reliable. Very few people in our community will ask themselves before using it, "Is it secure enough?". Well for now, I would like to inform you all that Google Chrome is vulnerable at the moment, may be they'll fix these security holes later but let us concern about it now.

There are two major vulnerabilities (security weaknesses) in this web browser;

- Its' made up of Apple's WebKit code so its having few problems which can lead the malicious hackers to hack your system without your prior notice.

- Secondly, the directory in which usually users save the downloaded files can help the malicious hacker to execute his/her malicious code in the DLLs, because all Windows operating systems (before Vista) actually search the DLL and the one caught first gets executed. Where as in Windows Vista it is really specific. (so this vulnerability is not for Windows Vista users, but the first one may apply)

Summary: If you do not understand whatever I wrote above, please stop using Google Chrome (if you're using it already). Its not safe for normal computer user, advanced users may get route out of its vulnerabilities.


As a security professional its my right to aware all of my community people to be careful about such vulnerable applications or software(s).
There will be a topic in my group with all warnings and hack discussions, please feel free to ask questions related to information systems & communication systems' security.

What do u say ????? ....... he is thinking wrong or right ??

I will never install their browser because I don't trust Google... Why ?

When I finish to set-up my new laptop two years ago, and start monitoring communications with the internet, I saw Google internet toolbar.exe phone home !!!!
I found that the Google internet toolbar was already installed and running on my laptop, I kick it out !
Then I had the Google desktop thing but it was not activate, so I take a look and find that if you activate it, it will collect informations such, how long I will consult the file found with it, yeah right like if they know that I consult one file for a few secondes and an other one for a few minutes that will help them to improve their software, they probably collect other kind of informations !! 
So I kick it out too along with their Picassa software, and it's a good thing that I block cookies since they implants their cookies with an industrial rate.
In Firefox I use the NoScript extension, so the script for googlesydication.com and google-analytics.com in the webpage are blocked.

and an another thing that I don't like of them, they don't ask permission to install update or new version on your computer, other browsers or programs like Paint.Net does.
And it seem that even if you uninstall Google Chrome you have left over, GoogleUpdate.exe...

C:\Documents and Settings\USER\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update

ProgID : GoogleUpdate.OnDemandCOMClass
ClassID : {2F0E2680-9FF5-43C0-B76E-114A56E93598}

you can also check in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\Elevation Policy

GoogleUpdate.exe have silent execution right with high privilege in IE, in simple words GoogleUpdate.exe have the right to silently execute himself on the medium protection mode (even if it set to the High mode)

And all their things new or update are and always stay in Beta version, a nice protection for them if someone complaint about something, the answer will be "you know it's a Beta version..."

I will never trust Google !

tell it Concepts  lol

/sigh

I hate defending Google (working for a major competitor) but I think I have to here.  Google doesn't track your every move for marketing purposes at all.  In fact, Google is the only major player to not employ any type of behavioral/user tracking.  The GMail part is purely contextual based on what's in your inbox.  If you leave GMail, nothing you get served from Google ties into it.  Nor does any data related to Google Analytics tie into any marketing you receive. 

At most Google Analytics and Google Toolbar data *MAY* feed into their new AdPlanner tool, but this tool is purely aggregate data.  It doesn't reveal that you in particular went to some site, or even have any way to reach you.  It solely says that x number people roughly have gone to this site.  It also correlates demographic data from various explicit panels and such to give the idea of user composition on a site.

Google's acquisition of DoubleClick changed things a little, as DoubleClick does have some means to track people (usually retargeting - you go to some website, they cookie you, and you see ads trying to entice you to return to the website).  But Google itself has even just recently introduced frequency capping (where they watch how many times you saw a particular ad and stop showing it to you to rotate in new ads). 

In reality, most of the data google has about you, aside from being completely anonymous isn't even tied together.  That they record a user going to a site for reporting purposes with Web Analytics doesn't have anything to do with what they see you do on your searches. 

Now if you really have a problem with all this, I recommend you stop using the internet.  Without site visitation stats, webmasters can't monetize websites.  So no more free content.  And without rudimentatary targeting techniques at the minimum such as frequency capping, publishers can't drive enough value out of the ads they show to turn enough of a profit.  So maybe a few sites still exist but the quality of content is forced to be low due to minimal budgets.  Never mind the value that more advanced targeting techquies drive (while still respecting anonymity).

As for the browser:  I'm loving it.  Most of the complaints I've seen on here so far are pretty silly to complain about.  The browser is in beta folks.  Very early beta at that.  Things like plugins/extensions are coming in time.  This is only version 0.2.xx.xx.

Well yeah, it's actually pretty standard for most that want to legally display people's content for public consumption.  That's why it's in the terms for all of their products where you post things publicly and not anywhere else.

Luckily your reading isn't the actual legal reading.

Sooo..humm i have been hide from the net for a while is Google Chrome safe to use or not or should i want to see what happens in the days to come?

just uploaded the last of 4 new themes for chrome browser

please take a look at them at my chrome themes website

thanks

Eugene

Chrome projects

I suppose you could, and there'd probably be an element of truth attached to your/our suspicions, but when it comes to Google mining and retaining individuals data, it is not supposition, suspicion or theory.

It was not that long ago that the US Government took Google to Court to have the surfing habits of particular persons of interest released to assist in its inquiries into terrorism suspects and child pornography, etc. Those records were eventually released to the relevant gov't agencies, thus proving their existence... the fact that Google can/and does monitor individuals on the internet.

The idea of this discussion is NOT to have people "chasing shadows", but that they are aware of them.... invasive data mining shadows that do NOT respect their privacy.  OK, the internet is a public domain, but so is a public toilet... and public toilets provide doors on cubicles to afford people their privacy.  It's not whether or not someone has something to hide, but that people should have the right to keep their lives to themselves... not for it to become an open book that's stored on someone elses data-base, with no control over its validity, accuracy or even who accesses it....ultimately what it is used for.

In this case, it is more a case of fact than theory.  We know that Googe apps contain phone home devices that collect data from our PC's/IP addresses.... and we also know that Google turned the internet records of people of interest to the US Gov't, so it's not pie in the sky, but rather a reality... and in that there is a potential danger to anyone and everyone....

What may be quite legal today may become out-lawed tomorrow.  For example, you may visit a skinning site based in Iran - no harm in that, you might say - but if the US Gov't suddenly out-lawed any US Citizen from visiting Iranian sites of any description, and made it punishable by law (and Google turned over your internet history, you could find yourself facing a prison sentence for something quite innocuous.

OK, that example may be somewhat extreme, but it's the principle and something to think about.

Ah ha!  I knew that if I was persistent you'd eventually come around.

It doesn't matter whether you agree with my line of reasoning or not, you've reached a similar conclusion, based on your own experience, and have decided that Google Chrome is not for you, nor would you recommend it to anyone else. I commend you for posting that, and the link to the Security Now podcast, as I believe people should be aware of the risks... thank you.