It is said that God made us in his image so i guess there is alot of potential for us to be greater than what we are now, to what extent i do not know? Read the story of the tower of Babel in the bible for a clue.... Apparantly God caused everyone to speak different languages otherwise there would have been no limit to human development?

Anyway, if you wan't to know if God has limited our development or plays tricks, then first you have to ask to what purpose did God create us?

ahem, well as interesting as that may be, you might wan't to do a little research yourself before being quite so bold as to use the term 'all' religion. I mean how do you know i didn't personally invent a religion yesterday that dousn't involve astronomy? well, you did say 'all' religion right? so unless you are an all seeing powerful God, i suggest you can take that word 'all' under your arm and skulk off in shame.

maybe as a test. so the next race of beings he creates (the drengin) will turn out better.

Oh well.

(Couldn't edit the other one and still put the quote in so I had to post two replies)

I will try and answer in my own inadequate way using Bible scripture as my guide. I'm going to treat your post as a serious question for now. If I'm only feeding the trolls, then I expect I'll not be back.



Well, lose the captial G and then you are on to something.
Jesus quoted the psalms when he said in John 10:34 "Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'"
Looking at the context of John 10, and then reading Psalm 82 which Jesus quoted, leads me to believe that God created us with great capability. Our sin and subsequent separation from God has placed us in a greatly lowered estate than what is eventually planned for us.

But, will we become omniscient? Will we become like God with infinite awareness, understanding, and insight?

1 Corintians 139-12
9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

Looks to me like we have a good chance, if you look at only the passage above. But you have to consider other passages as well.

Isaiah 55:8-10 (New International Version)
8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.

9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

This would imply that we can never hope to equal God's knowledge. While I personally believe this to be the case, others might argue that God is speaking to us in our current, lowered estate only, and not speaking to how we will become after the resurrection. I am not able to dispute that with my limited knowledge. I'm not a Bible scholar.


So far as I am concerned, it is true. God does not play jokes on his creation so far as I know; but my knowledge is currently imperfect, as the passage above states.


Being separated from God does limit us in this world; but when we are again united with Him, I do not believe there will be a limit placed upon us.


No.


One of the biggest mistakes that atheists make, and I know because I used to be one myself, is this applying human fallacies to a perfect being. Like the constant question of "If God is omnipotent and can do anything, can God make a rock so big that even He can't lift it?" It's a nonsensical question. God is defined as being supernatural, that is "of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe". He is beyond the normal space/time continuum that we are able to observe and manipulate. I really doubt he needs a vacation.


I, on the other hand, am made of flesh and most assuredly fallible, so please don't anyone start in on my mistakes. I'm sure I've made plenty. What I've offered is what I believe God's Word has given us that answers your questions.

You logic got totally lost there - if what I'm reading about quantum physics is correct, there are potentially unknowable things - for example the exact position and velocity of a particle at a point in time.



I seriously doubt it. There's no indication that we have the resources to ever accomplish anything close to this - and no indication that Earth will exist long enough to come anywhere near that point.



If I recall the beliefs of my religion correctly, man placed those limits on himself.



Nope. Man, however, is full of them.

Frankly, your poetry really isn't that good, and your thoughts reflect only a broad "shotgun" approach to religion that ignores the fact that different religions have different beliefs. Your poetry is anything but deep.

Here we go again....

this is a slight misunderstanding. Christ is the god of the old testiment. but he is not GOD.

When ever Christ refers to GOD, he always says god my father. A person would never refer to himself as his own father. Christ's main mission was not the forgiveness of your sins. It was the removal of the sin of the fall of adam and eve.



no he has put limits on our understanding




is not the day christ was born on





one christian faith teaches this the latter day saints


remember if adam and eve had not fallen they would not have been able to have children.

Nice, subtle irony. I have to bow to you, sir.

*Sigh*

If this post becomes nothing more than a contest of trying to show whos memory is best, then I'm leaving. For those who are not thinking, please try to think. Its not any fun to read stuff that isn't original. I do think that debating this subject was the objective of this post.



Although most people seem to be so interested in talking about God, lets put it aside for a moment. To what limit of knowledge could an atheist phenomina possibly have?

If we take what we know about science, our capacity for knowledge would clearly be finite. Our nervious system has a finite volume and complexity, which limits how much information it could hold at any given time. Add in the fact that things tend to change over time, and you can clearly see that our minds, as is, not up to the task of storing a theoretically infinite amount of information. Even if someone were to "comsume" the universe to increase their capacity to store information, they would fail to know everything.

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So, am I right, or did I miss something? If I did miss something, could you explain?

The anwser is in plain site because God already gaved us a limit, we are not immortal. And for those of you who say that one day we will uncover a pill or a technology that will make us immortal? it's hard to believe for someone exisiting for millenias. Life is very unexpected and there is bound to be something that will kill you eventually. So immortality might be possible in a biological sense and to a certain degree but I can't imagine someone living for a million years ????

here is proof of god

water, salt and ice

Yup.

water=hydrogen and oxygen=rocket fuel

salt=sodium and chloride=sodium explodes in water. chloride is a poison.


ice is the only solid that floats in its own liquid form. IE water freezes top to bottom leaving room at bottom for life to live most of the time.