Rather than making a character "league-affiliated", it might be easier to have characters that only exist for playing in the league. Granted, that means some people might have to remove characters that are already in other empires, but that's not too unreasonable a request, I don't think.
My whole idea here is to prevent people from having to remove a character from an empire. It would seem to be in our best interest to allow as many people to play as possible, and by not having an "empire" stipulation seems to do just that. Personally i can go either way, i felt this allowed more players. I'll go with the majority on this.
3) Screenshots or details of character used for the submitted game are to be posted in the (soon to be) Metaverse League Results thread. Only games and scores posted in this thread will be accepted. Will it also be acceptable to post the results and point to a game in your profile? Screenshots are a lot of work, and a lot of people have expressed frustration with doing them.
Yep. When i said character details this is what i meant, i may not have worded it right.
4) Characters may be new or old. There is no need for a seperate League empire, though we do encourage you to make such an empire if possible.
Agree with ElWhop0 here: it's gotten a bit far from my original idea. That's neither here nor there, of course; if people want to implement a different/better idea, that's fine.
I'm starting to get really confused with everyones idea/concept of the empire involvment. I'll address this later on when i respond to ElWhopO.
Hmm, to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure I understood all of that. Your system seems needlessly arcane. Do you see this as an improvement over the existing scoring for the metaverse? It seems to me that we should use the points system already in place, if only because it will prevent a lot of hassle with figuring out who scored what with what game. If you think you can handle all of that, I applaud you. Don't think I could...
All the settings and in fact much of what i have suggested is aimed at leveling the playing field. By not making the focus the actual score you get but rather the fact you completed the assingment was the most fair way of giving a newcomer playing on normal the chance to compete with a veteren playing on suicidal. The newcomer would never stand a chance and would be discouraged quite quickly. An example i'll use is Wyndstar. He is capable of 60 to 100k scores on the smaller maps in a very short time. The only way i myself can even come close to those types of scores is with a gigantic abundant all DA game that takes 3 weeks to complete. By focusing on the fact we both won and not the score i felt this was addressed. The scores are then rewarded with bonus points.
The point of my original idea was that players would be randomly assigned their teams.
Fair enough. i either missed this or forgot it, but i am nore than happy than to do the league this way. As for only going three months, i only did that so that we can tweak and alter what we feel needs changing and move to a permanent league after that.
Onto ElWhopO,
I still don't see the need to even use a different character than I am now. Just modifying my personal wishes and make the horrible, horrible sacrifice of playing a certain size map or something simple like that should be enough.
Posting with my current character to add to my Empire's score AND have it be re-scored using a league scoring system to count for my league game(s) seemed like a good compromise that would eliminate the obstacles mentioned of starting a new Empire and creating new characters.
Nor i. Maybe i have missed the class where this was discussed but i am at a loss here.
There is absolutley no need for you to create another character to play in the league.
There is no need for one of the league teams to be an actual empire.
You may play as whatever character you like, even if that character is in an empire already, all you would do is when players are selected for teams nominate which character you are using, then when your games are done either post a screenshoy or at least a few deatils pointing out which game on your profile is your league game.
If,
If all the players that have been put into a team are not empire related then they could make an empire themselves. This would make it easier to track their games and would show on the AltMeta. It is a choice.
Personally if we all could have a character spare to devote to the league and once the teams were done, were then all made into empires would be my preferred method. But doing this i feel would negate people playing who have 3 characters committed to empires already. So allowing either way seemed to be the way to go.
I wonder what the Metaverse Council is saying about this idea? Should have had some kind of Council input by now, or did I miss it?
I know i have not been on there long, but i am part of the Metaverse Council. As is Mumblefratz who has contributed a great deal to this discussion already.
ffers of support via forums/websites etc. seems to have been refused by simply being ignored,
As to this, personally, since this is Galciv and it is the Metaverse, keeping it here on these forums seemed the logical thing to do.
it seems like the League idea was a good one, but may not be doable. In addition, I guess I just don't want to be roped into playing a tournament instead of a league. Although that may only be my perception, it still irks me to even think it.
Again i feel lost. Is not a League just a tournament but with teams? not sure i understand how this is a tournament and not a league.
My comment about popularity contests, while perhaps a bit too dramatic, is still valid in the sense that: while current popularity some few enjoy based on Empire-affiliation or name-recognition is fine, maybe there are those who play the game for it's own sake and might have wanted to participate in a different way.
Again i don't understand. How does name recognition or popularity have any bearing on the league? If someone who just bought the game today, signed up and saw this thread and decided to join would be great. They would feel they could compete against 2 year veterans due to the focus being on winning not scoring and they would get to know a great bunch of people and learn the ropes along the way.
By them not being known or in an empire, how does that advantage/disadvantage them?
i hope none of my comments are taken with any negativity, as this is certainly not my intent, i am just a little lost i think.
Neilo.
