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Where do you get your news?

June 19, 2007 8:05:05 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I get bored a lot and like to read news sites but most of the ones I can find are extremely biased or just skim the surface of an issue and really don't tell me as much as I would like.
Lately I have been reading BBC News online, anyone have any suggestions?
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Reply #1 June 19, 2007 8:22:50 PM
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I have Yahoo as my home page(since my email is there). I usually skim their headlines. If I find something interesting and click on it, it will usually branch off to AP, BBC or others. So you kinda get a variety of news sites out of one that way. Even if it stays within Yahoo at the bottom they give you links to the related stories from various sources including The NY times, Washington Post, The Guardian(UK) among others. I'm not much of a news hound though and don't go real in depth unless it really interests me.


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Reply #2 June 19, 2007 10:09:32 PM
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I like the Drudge Report, which always has a lot of links to various news sources (mostly US and UK, it seems), and updates frequently. Besides the "real news," he tends to have a some "pop culture" stuff that does not interest me (about TV shows, celebrities, etc.) but you can just ignore those headlines (or read them if that's your cup of tea).
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Reply #3 June 19, 2007 10:46:47 PM
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I use www.digg.com to find the interesting stuff first but for classic news I use
Yahoo News homepage they cover everything including local if you set it up .

http://news.yahoo.com/
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Reply #4 June 19, 2007 11:32:33 PM
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I'm a lapsed civics instructor. I'd strongly suggest that everyone avoid news portals like Yahoo or Google and instead use your darned browsers and build a simple folder of news source links that suit you. The portals are aimed at your inner impulse shopper, not your inner citizen.

IMO, everyone needs to read at least one of the major national papers (NYT, Washington Post or Times, Houston Chronicle, LA Times, Miami Herald, etc.) as well as your local rag, however pathetically news-McNuggets it might have become in the last decade or so.

As for the b*ogosphere, just keep in mind that fact checking is getting pretty tatty at "classic" news organizations, and some of the most popular b*oggers are prone to, um, how can I say this nicely...rich interpreations of the available "facts." Faugh. 'Tis a net of a billion lies (used to be a million, but inflation always sets in...)
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Reply #5 June 20, 2007 12:52:59 PM
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I get my news all over the place. I even like the christian Science monitor! The monitor is one of my favorites except when they start preaching. But I always take everything I read with a grain of salt. News people are in business after all of selling advertisments! Even non profit endeavors have some agenda personally I prefer the money angle cause it make things easier to spot.
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Reply #6 June 20, 2007 6:35:29 PM
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"the Onion"
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Reply #7 June 20, 2007 6:51:49 PM
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Does Jay Leno count as "news"?

cnn.com is my homepage.
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Reply #8 June 21, 2007 6:44:02 PM
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I watch ABC at night, and will browse CNN. Unfortunately, I don't get a paper (I'm not sure if my town has one), and the local news out here is ummm, very amatuer in terms of presentation and information provided.
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Reply #9 June 21, 2007 7:29:49 PM
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I even like the christian Science monitor!


I can be accused (wrongly) of being a secular humanist, and I find the Monitor to be an extremely reputable source when it comes to fact-based reporting. I've never been a daily reader, but I don't recall having ever noticed them proseltyzing in a news piece.

Chad, I agree that there is no such thing as truly neutral communication, but are you sure you didn't mistake a Monitor editorial or analysis piece for their news work?
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Reply #10 June 21, 2007 7:39:44 PM
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I even like the christian Science monitor!


I can be accused (wrongly) of being a secular humanist, and I find the Monitor to be an extremely reputable source when it comes to fact-based reporting. I've never been a daily reader, but I don't recall having ever noticed them proseltyzing in a news piece.

Chad, I agree that there is no such thing as truly neutral communication, but are you sure you didn't mistake a Monitor editorial or analysis piece for their news work?


yeah your right I dont read the monitor as a whole just their editorials which are usually good even the bad ones are usually looking at facts. If its not their work I am very glad you brought it up.
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Reply #11 June 22, 2007 10:32:05 AM
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Hmm.. news.. i get it from:
News.bbc.com
The Sun (UK)
The Daily Mail (UK)
Central news
BBC1
BBC World
Channel 4
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Reply #12 June 22, 2007 11:27:24 AM
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The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
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Reply #13 June 22, 2007 2:44:10 PM
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I look at a number of different ones, but try the Christian Science Monitor. Despite the name, the stories are not influenced in a religious way (I am an atheist and would not read them if they were), and they do an excellent job being objective and un-biased. They stick to the facts. The Newshour on PBS isnt bad either.
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Reply #14 June 22, 2007 10:59:28 PM
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The Daily Show With Jon Stewart


Thats a good one!
I'm not sure about many network news, most are really bias *cough*Fox news*cough*, I watch mostly cnn, although they seem to swing quite far to left sometimes.
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Reply #15 June 23, 2007 4:57:11 PM
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Yeah I've noticed that CNN and FOX seem to be becoming more opposed to eachother in terms of reporting; one moving more to the left, the other moving to the right. In the past few years they've become more polarized in my opinion. I do enjoy PBS and NPR as they seem pretty good at reporting. I'll have to give the Christian Science Monitor a look.

I think the worst is the sound byte reporting that has come pretty popular these days. I watch ABC and used to watch CBS and I've noticed that thier news has become more packaged. 15-20 minutes of news, 5 stories consisting of 30-60 seconds of sound/visual bytes, followed by some sort of editorial commentary from thier network analyst, or somethign to that effect.
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Reply #16 June 23, 2007 6:11:40 PM
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On the net I go for news from BCC, MSNBC, NPR. When it comes to the newspapers, I just check headlines and check on the net on the headlines that interest me. On TV I mainly stick to MSNBC.
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Reply #17 June 23, 2007 6:52:58 PM
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Austalian ABC News Radio.
German DW English version.
Dutch News Radio.
Australian New Scientist.

Sometimes the BBC foreign service.
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Reply #18 June 23, 2007 10:05:31 PM
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The Daily Show With Jon Stewart


Thats a good one!
I'm not sure about many network news, most are really bias *cough*Fox news*cough*, I watch mostly cnn, although they seem to swing quite far to left sometimes.


Of course Jon Stewart is a comedian.

I actually think Fox News is quite balanced in their reporting. O'Reilly and Hannity and Combs are fine shows, but their not passed off as news...rather news commentary.
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Reply #19 June 24, 2007 10:58:53 PM
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All the Australian media outlets all report exactly the same things word for word.

I have ninemsn.com.au as my homepage and they usually have a top story to read. Today it was a story on an American sailor who was tricked by police pretending to be a 14 year old girl online.

Personally i am unsure why the police chose to pretend to be a girl age 14, and not age 10 or less? shouldn't the priority be to persure the real siko's??
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Reply #20 June 24, 2007 11:57:49 PM
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I watch CNN, ABC, my local news, and my town newspaper. Although anymore I rarely watch national news. All national news is most of the time is just so you can say to your friends "did you hear about...?". And it basically never affects the average person.
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Reply #21 June 25, 2007 8:37:33 AM
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I watch mostly cnn, although they seem to swing quite far to left sometimes.


This is only accurate in the local US sense. We haven't had a serious left since the '60s. Our hard right crowd are thinly veiled fascists and our so-called left reads like timid centrism to lots of folks from abroad.

If we had a real left, we wouldn't have to depend on rival billionaires to check Microsoft's monopoly power and we'd have national health care. And to try recovering from going OT, our lack of a left is also reflected in the extreme concentration of ownership of media outlets. If Murdoch takes the WSJ, well, the end times could be here...

Re the Comedy Central News Hour, you can get lots more out of that quality satire if you make a habit of reading more "real" news
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Reply #22 June 25, 2007 9:19:39 AM
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BBC news mostly for general reading in front of the computer.

Various sites for more specialist news (on my job, interests or academic subjects)

The Bangkok Post for my lunch-break and coffee-time newspaper... the best international English language newspaper in Thailand.

What is laughably known as "Thai news" - should be careful or I might get blocked!!   


/agrees with SwiCord - An American Left is an oxymoron
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Reply #23 July 3, 2007 2:40:57 AM
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The Daily Show With Jon Stewart


I religiously read slashdot. From there I follow links, do Yahoo and Google searches and follow up on Wiki articles. I look at extreme right and left wing sites, see what mainstream media (BBC and CNN) is saying. If I have time, I check out local news to see what "the guy next door" is seeing.

Then at the end of the day, I watch The Daily Show. Just as I'm ready to cry from all the crap I've seen, he makes it funny and lets me know I'm not the only one who finds it completely &*%$@#-up.

Stewart/Colbert '08!!
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Reply #24 July 3, 2007 12:12:00 PM
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Here and yonder. I like to mix my sources.

ABC
MSNBC
FOXnews
Jerusalem Post
BBC
Never Yet Melted
military.com

I try to get news instead of commentary. I can make up my own mind, thank you very much.
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Reply #25 July 3, 2007 12:37:50 PM
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From the BBC to Jon Stewart.
Anywhere i find it.

But that doesn't mean i just take it as read.

I make sure there are more than one different sources and then at least use my brain to think of what might be true and what might be hoax or propaganda.

It takes me "preponderance of evidence" for me to start and accept what the media tells me. and I never have total faith or certainty in anything they say.

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