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Aaaargh! *&%$! Pirates!

April 14, 2007 2:47:43 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I am a new player and the pirates are driving me insane!

I had the day off work yesterday and was really looking forward to getting into a good game. I was about 2 hours into a game on Beginner level, I was well ahead of the AI in research and could pretty easily build ships to counter anything my opponents had. Now sometimes the AI sends in just a few pirate ships and I can normally handle these. But for the second time now I have had a game where it sends in hundreds of Pirate ships that are light years ahead of my current techs. They have max logistics - so they sometimes have over 20 ships in a fleet. They kill everything in sight and just basically camp your planets, making it hard to produce a fleet even if you get your techs high enough to counter them. Yesterday was the worst, because I had Galactive Privateer researched and about 9 trade routes established - so every turn I would have to wait literally minutes as the AI pirates tried to attack my freighters and then realized they couldn't. It really bogged the game down. I did keep hitting the turn button though (while playing my Xbox so that I could actually have some fun) and about 5-6 hours later I produced a fleet of battleships that seemed to be able to handle them. Then the next turn the AI churns out more pirates with totally new technology (instead of Mass Driver they had Beam)! And I am talking doomray or something close to it - so my research was again nowhere near being able to handle them.

Is this considered a Mega Event that I can possibly turn off somehow? I like an AI that throws in surprises - but this is so far off the charts that it is sucking the fun out of the game for me. Am I missing something here?
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Reply #1 April 14, 2007 3:56:44 PM
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yeah the pirate event sucks. you have to turn off the mega events to get rid of it, which is a shame since the rest of the events are fun.
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Reply #2 April 14, 2007 4:51:40 PM
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It would be nice if they switched this to the Dreadlord event and changed the old dread lord event to the making of a hostile Pirate planet or something.
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Reply #3 April 14, 2007 5:43:52 PM
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Pirate and Spy Infestation events both suck - and I like 99% of the megas, but those two just ruin it.
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Reply #4 April 14, 2007 5:59:22 PM
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The spy one makes me hoard spies and never use them...just in case.
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Reply #5 April 14, 2007 7:24:34 PM
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On the other side however it is nice when the pir8ts attack the most powerfull civs on the board if it isn't you, ;o) I have had to sneak and attack the planet on the other side to keep the pir8ts from killing me before I can conquer the planet.

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Reply #6 April 15, 2007 1:10:00 AM
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Hi! I'm a new player to, but I've learned how to defeat the pirates. The biggest pirate fleet I encountered so far was 66 ships with thousands of points in attack and defense. To defeat them used a ship to spy on them outside there detection range of 15 so I could figure out the largest attack and defense of their individual ships. Mind you I'm playing DL not DA, so I'm not sure how this applies. But, anyway,I designed a ship with a base defense greater than or equal to their largest attacking ship in each catagory of defense, which I usually found to be frigates. I put 1 of my largest damage weapons and the rest were engines. In one case I had finished research with the Yor, so I had a tiny hull with 2 zero-point armor, 2 areon shields, and 2 ultimate invulnerability, and a death ray with 2 Mk 3 hyper-engines. This gave me 5 points damage per shot, with 25 movement points due to engines. One ship wiped out 9 of 11 pirates in a fleet - which took the fleet battle simulator 2 hours to complete. Other races beside the Yor have slightly different results, but the effect is the same. A small fleet of 3 ships can easily wipe huge investments in large ships when balanced like that. each combat turn your ship attacks 1 time for each movement point and the defender only attacks with his defending ship - at least thats my impression in DL. Of course when ever I got caught by my enemy I was destroyed easily, so it was a first strike senario. I calculated the amount of damage I did in each engagement and it was way beyond 5 points when I attacked. I suspect that it was 5 points per movement point during the attack. I was killing dreadnoughts with 115 hp's, 50 points armor, 30 points areon, 80 points ultimate invulnerability with just one doom ray on a tiny hull.
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Reply #7 April 15, 2007 1:21:59 AM
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Just to clarify the Yor was a tiny hull against 11 pirates with 11-20 points of offensive missle attack, the 66 ship pirate fleet, I was the Terran with a blackhole missle that did 25 points of damage per shot, on a huge hull with lots of hyper-engine. Hope that helps.
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Reply #8 April 15, 2007 3:36:33 AM
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Hey dsq2 I can help you to handle with the pirates.Actually it is very easy.You have to research only beam weapons and rockets for awhile.Look the pirates won't get near you if you have Phasors VII or Disruptors II and of course some Photon Torpedoes II.This will keep them away from you race.  
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Reply #9 April 15, 2007 11:51:17 AM
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Mind you I'm playing DL not DA, so I'm not sure how this applies.


Sorry, but this is a completely different situation than what you're used to. The Pirate mega event in DA is alot more drastic than the regular one that you're refering to. Any approach you might have for the regular pirate event is not necessarily going to be meaningful with the mega event.

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Reply #10 April 15, 2007 2:04:28 PM
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Another new player here. Using the beta version 1.6.

My last two games have ended with large pirate fleets destroying all my starbases, trade freighters and corpse-camping my planets. Every ship I would try to build, these fleets would destroy. I am going to assume I just had bad luck for this to happen in back to back games. My military is usually weak, since I prefer the diplomacy, influence and trade parts of the game.

Would really like the option to be able to negotiate with the pirates and pay them off to move on, or have friendly races come to my aid. Or influence them into attacking someone else! Seems like this would give a boost to the non-military aspects of the game, and put some nuances into the diplomacy/influence tree.

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Reply #11 April 16, 2007 1:04:59 AM
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Hmm, I'm pretty new too but this event actually seemed to benefit me in the longrun.

My military was lagging behind the other races that game when the pirates spawned and wiped out pretty much everything that wasn't attackable by transports. Everything but asteroid mines. Since I was behind slightly, having all ships wiped out was slightly better for me than the other races.

What I did was observe the types of ships the pirates used and researched the counter armor and large ship hulls. That, along with the 2x ship hitpoint building, allowed me to finally survive and get back into space. Eventually I had a fleet of a few capital ships like that which cleared out all my space. But the large ship hull seemed crucial - you can only produce one ship at a time, so it seemed wiser to save up to produce one very powerful ship rather than a bunch of little ships that died too fast to do anything.

The AI did far worse (similar to some of the people in here actually, with it trying to trickle units out.) So overall the pirates ended up helping me win that game, even though they kicked the crap out of tons of starbases I'd set up.

That's just my personal experience with it though. I'm sure the event's difficulty changes depending on universe size and everyones' tech level at the time the event starts.
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Reply #12 April 22, 2007 1:20:07 PM
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What to build: A huge engines with a transport module

Cheap victory, AI cannot handle this event at all.
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