I asked the same thing once about the galactic resort, i though i had missed something. I could see if it had a lower moral rate if it also had like an influense factor. Kinda like the political capital.

I wonder if the big changes coming in TA will have some bulilds taken out of the game. I know it was said that a lot of buildings will have dual purposes. thats cool.

Another place where buildings arent used a lot by human player i think is the planet defence buildings. There are just too many. I think it would be great if they upgraded, like the other buildings do. Like first we get the one that makes the ships on planet form a fleet, then instead of having to build a second building, after the right tech we can convert that building to the one that lets ALL ships be in a fleet regardless of logistics and lastly it can become the one that doubles the HP of shipd in orbit. each time it keeps the previous ability. I just never want to give up tiles for these stuructures. See? i never use them so i dont even know what they're all called. When i take an AI planet usually build over what ever i can.


Btw some previosly meantioned structures and techs are not all useless. I build and sometimes buy fertility clinics when i conquor a planet. Ill later build over it but at like 240 bc its worth to get the population back up faster, if you have the economy to do it. Late game, 240bc is nothing.

i belive you need to locate your dark avatar file within Gal Civ on your C drive.

open data, english

Open Planetimprovments in wordpad

find:

Galactic Resort
GalResort
A relaxing vacation spot for all citizens on the planet to enjoy.
Happiness Creator
400
1
20
ZeroGSportsArena
GalResort.png
HarmonyCrystals.png
SuperProject
1


Can change it tyo what you want, I'm trying:

Galactic Resort
GalResort
A relaxing vacation spot for all citizens on the planet to enjoy.
Happiness Creator
500
1
90
ZeroGSportsArena
GalResort.png
HarmonyCrystals.png
SuperProject
1

I think what's needed is a galaxy-wide project manager. Something that can hide items from the list and can can control upgrades on all planets at the same time. What I end up doing now is finding a low class planet to get those worthless special projects off the list. The other ones I never build are just stuck there. Having no ability to control upgrades galaxy wide is a real *****. It's no fun going through several hundred planets one by one because the game went into automatic upgrade hell. This is a major oversight IMO.

I'm not saying it is worth it in your playing style, but there are other differences between the Gal Resort and the Zero-G.

Gal Resort costs 33% more to build (400mp vs 300mp), and provides ~17% less morale boost (25% vs 30%). However, if all you need is ~25%, the Gal Resort is half as expensive to maintain (1bc vs 2 bc).

The Gal Resort also has no Employment value, but I'm not sure what this does (if anything) within the game.

drrider

I'm still wondering why no one objected to calling the Orbital Fleet Manager useless. On highly contested planets it would be a lifesaver. Fleet vs Fleet is definatly worth the lost space on a rather large world, as it would be better to have income for 100 turns instead of 10.

~NNMcG

Highly contested planets? That change hands many times? In this case, wouldn't the OFM eventually get destroyed by Mass Drivers, Core Detonations, Tidal Disruptions or Mini-Soldiers?

IMO, the Counter Espionage Center is more valuable than the Orbital Fleet Manager. Ships can be reused. Spies, once used to nullify other spies, cannot be reused, and become much, much more expensive.



WRONG! Even though I may be inexperienced, this I'm sure of. The formula for production is:

output = [{ base production from factories * sum of buildings' bonuses (capitals...)} + ( asteroid mines + focus )] * sum of other bonuses (abilities, starbases...)

Happily, the game is moddable to the extent where most of these issues can be addressed. (the downside being, no posting to the metaverse if that is your cup of tea)

what i did, since there is no "tourism" ability to increase, was to give the Gal resort a 40% morale bonus + a 15% planet based Econ bonus, therefore making it a bit more reasonable for both the ai and myself to build.

S.P. Center i simply added a 10% planetary defense bonus along with the morale it offers - seemed to make sense for those planets that the ai has a tendancy to fixate on and send transport after transport to.

The Fleet Manager is quite possibly one of my favourite buildings - i never understood why planets in a 23+ century setting couldnt have defenders co-ordinate as fleets in the first place - considering our real world Air traffic control system watches thousands of planes in the air at once, you would think that keeping a few dozen ships in space from colliding wouldnt be too hard.

Pardon the digression. Since F-Logistics is hard coded to the OFM and the HFM i simply a) doubled it to f-logistics 2, added a minor trade bonus (1%)/econ bonus (5%) to simulate better shipping via a world wide air/space traffic control system and then uppped the AI value so as to weight it a bit more in the AI's view.

the happy consequence of the above change to the OFM is that the AI builds the OFM more, which means less "exp farm" type planets where the player can just pick off one ship at a time parked on a planet with impunity - you face more defending fleets, which means you will suffer more losses. - not to mention that it gets a bit tedious killing off one ship at a time over and over again. (btw devs, removing some of the hard-coded ability/building associations would really make us happy)

With the advent of Twilight, i think some of these items will be addressed in passing one way or the other, there will be much more variety in planet "builds".

I always assumed this would be more useful on small and tiny maps.

I long for the latest version.... can't wait for this Expansion... hopefully, it'll be no more than $30... I can't see them asking for more than $30 for an expansion....


: K

Since only trade goods or mining resources have a civ wide effect on morale, perhaps that Galactic Resort can be changed to have the same bonus but on all of your worlds.

Hi!

If
   the game is DA and
   the planet has +59% starships bonus and
   the planet has 13 factories, Manufacturing Capital and 12 full econ starbases suporting it
then
   huge ships coming from it each second turn KICK ASS.

First-hand experience. OFC I designed those ships specifically for the planet's military output to use most of its 1200 MP output (with focus on research ). In all my previous games I've never built such a planet. If I'd let it run for one game year I'd probably go broke by ship maintenance. BTW does anyone know what happens if one can't pay maintenace for ships? Looking at broke AIs I'd say they are decommisioned.

BR, Iztok

Hyperion Shipyard obviously has a little better function in smaller maps, but also on more rare planet settings. If each race only gets 3 or 4 planets during colonization, and you are building transports or constructors, that +1 speed helps a lot. Especially if you can get the gravity accelerators trade good, which gives +1 speed, as well.

Personally, excepting RARE conditions, I think the temples of Evil/neutral/good, are totally pointless. Lot of tech to get them, expensive to build, and by the time you do, trade routes are usually all but gone due to war and conquest. To top it off you only get money from those of similar ethical alignment, usually just 1 or 2 other races, if any at all.

I've always thought that the developers intentionally included game elements that would allow you to make mistakes, thus penalizing lazy players and rewarding those willing to do a little research.

I think it makes the game more interesting. It keeps it from being an environment where all you try to do is more and more of the "right" thing and forces the player to think critically.