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Black Holes

February 11, 2007 12:30:17 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
Trying to avoid the center of a black hole once you've crossed the horizon is just like trying to avoid next Thursday.

I find this funny...
it may seem bland, but once you understand timelike versus spacelike coordinates it gets pretty funny. or at least it does to me.
Just a little reading
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Reply #1 February 11, 2007 6:52:28 PM
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Well i am reading it, the person who wrote it sure has a sense of humor.

Loving the "What would happen if the Sun turned into a black whole?" question.
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Reply #2 February 11, 2007 6:54:27 PM
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I would advise you not to buy any of thosee 8-billion year government bonds   , this person should be a comedian.
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Reply #3 February 11, 2007 10:36:17 PM
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Fun read but I new this stuff already. I learned it off a video which had Steven Hawking, and Homer Simpson in it. Thanks for the brush up though.
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Reply #4 February 11, 2007 11:02:02 PM
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yeah, all I didnt know here was the specifics of Hawking's radiation. thats it.

I just thought the "unavoidable as next thursday" bit was funny, of course if you have rotation the whole thing is blown out of wack.
I wonder what you could possibly call time rotation, if such a parallel exists.
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Reply #5 February 11, 2007 11:30:00 PM
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I like the way the person described tidal affects.
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Reply #6 February 12, 2007 4:39:52 PM
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"in fact, if you fired your engines you'd only smash faster into the singularity, so enjoy the view for the next seven seconds"

in fact, I wouldn't mind going into a black hole as my "way out" of this world. first of all it would be painless, and second it would just be really awesome.
but as a small point I think when you "contacted" the event horizon you would appear (to yourself, not penelope) to "cushion" into it, this is because less and less light would be within your light cone.
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Reply #7 February 12, 2007 5:31:31 PM
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I wouldn't mind going into a black hole as my "way out" of this world.


How would Penelope feel about this?
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Reply #8 February 12, 2007 6:11:26 PM
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Yes, exactly i mean the last image of you wont reach her for the next infinity. I think she would get lonely and/or bored, and go end her own life.

No one said it would be painless, the guy did speak a lot about tidal effects being uncomftrable.
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Reply #9 February 12, 2007 10:05:11 PM
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by the time the neural messages from your feet got to your brain you'd have already hit the singularity.
painless.
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Reply #10 February 12, 2007 11:01:04 PM
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I am sure that it takes less than seven seconds for a pain signal to reach your brain.
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Reply #11 February 13, 2007 5:41:13 PM
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and if you payed attention tidal forces occur WAY after that.
tsk tsk.
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Reply #12 February 13, 2007 7:20:44 PM
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No, he said that you would start feeling them almost upon entering the black hole if it was one the gigantic ones. And that you would be torn apart long before you would hit the singularity.
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Reply #13 February 14, 2007 7:34:47 AM
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he said that the tidal forces (if I remember correctly) were somewhere withing 6,000 lightyears of the singularity

at that point your velocity will have been so massive that you traverse that in less than the time it would take for the message to reach your brain.
yes you MIGHT feel a few nanoseconds of uncomfort, but by the time you reach pain level your dead, long dead.

actually to be specific your body would probably dessosciate as soon as you hit the singularity, at that point photons wouldn't be able to interact with particles because they would be dragged away too fast, the end result being that the message CANNOT reach your brain because you've dessosciated away.
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Reply #14 February 14, 2007 5:06:37 PM
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he said that the tidal forces (if I remember correctly) were somewhere withing 6,000 lightyears of the singularity

at that point your velocity will have been so massive that you traverse that in less than the time it would take for the message to reach your brain.


Hmm, 6,000 lightyears in a fraction of a second? Doesn't that violate the speed limit just a bit? Your numbers must be off there Schem.
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Reply #15 February 14, 2007 6:57:48 PM
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no I'm not
see thats the beauty of it, we would see it as 6,000 lightyears, but spacetime is so warped that it would be far far shorter for the "person" traveling
and thats what would be your "acceleration". you would traverse "faster than light" because of the way timespace is bent. (from penelope's view)

I dont think you want to compete with me on taht one. I've got just a tad more knowledge there.
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