@Mumblefratz: Is there anything we can do to help you in preparing the write up on getting the MVL into the AltMeta?
Actually it's just been life getting in the way. First off I lost 6 weeks of effort when I had a gigantic game that wouldn't submit. Then just last week I lost my current boot image to a virus/trojan that I got from Imageshack which was very strange since I otherwise never had an issue there before. However they can be hacked just like anyone else and with all the ads on their site who knows what could creep in there. Anyway I've lost a couple of weeks to that and although I'm just about recovered I still haven't been able to start my MVL game for this month.
As far as help the only thing anyone could do would be to do the same kind of write up themselves. Certainly there's nothing that precludes anyone from doing this. I have no special insight that others may not have and if someone else has the time and inclination then they're certainly welcome to do this.
Basically the idea is to be able to present Kyro with a relatively short and concise document that describes how the MVL should operate within the context of the AltMeta. However given that the rule thread plus many other discussions and conversations that we've had over the course of the last 8 months all go into such a document it's not totally clear how concise such a writeup would be. Then of course realizing that such a writeup is only one person’s opinion and is only the starting point that needs to find consensus from the rest of the league.
Are you aware of other things that have been brought up to implement in the AltMeta but just hasn't been done yet? Things like that.
I basically envisioned the AltMeta as the single one stop shopping site for everything CG2 metaverse related, after these forums of course. So basically that would cover the AltMeta in general as it corresponds to the metaverse and then add to that the MVL, tournaments and even a Mod metaverse component.
There are a number of things I see that differentiates tournaments from what we have in the MVL. The primary thing would be that it's individual based. Of course being on a team is one of the prime benefits of the MVL but it also is a detriment as well because it's not wanting to let down your teammates that makes participation in *every* month important. Some people can't deal with this commitment and as long as tournaments are individually based then folks can participate or not from one month to the next without the negative effects of a non-submission.
Secondly this come and go as you please also opens up the possibility of larger scale games that would attract those that just don't care for the smaller games. All in all tournaments would be far less formal than the MVL and far more variable in the kinds (and length) of games to be played. However this still leaves a major lack in tournaments that is fulfilled by the MVL and that is the team element, the camaraderie and the ability to learn from more experienced teammates. I think this is a good thing that allows both the MVL and tournaments to coexist and perhaps overlap a bit but still satisfy more folks between the two of them than could ever be satisfied by either one independently.
Finally getting the Mod folks somehow intimately engaged with the AltMeta is just another source of diverse membership whose needs have never really been addressed by the "real" metaverse.
I think what we have in the AltMeta is a good start but the more people that we can get to visit the AltMeta regularly the better it is.
Remember, my hope would be that even should Stardock follow through with the idea that no future games would have a metaverse that the AltMeta could continue on and actually replace the metaverse and possibly be a model for other TBS games. The major lack at this point for that to happen is some kind of direct submission method that doesn't depend on the current metaverse. This is a major issue but I think it is possible to handle it.
The thing I see is that the AltMeta could actually become a legitimate commercial product that could possibly be of interest to any TBS game. Do you think an AltMeta that provides some element of competition, the support of tournaments, the support of league competitions and the support of a Mod community could have enhanced the life and popularity of any TBS game like Civ4 or MOO2 or many other games?
I think there's the potential of an actual commercial product lurking within confines of the AltMeta and if Stardock doesn't see it by eliminating the real metaverse for future games then perhaps some enterprising young man might see the potential and make something of it (hint, hint).