Question About Economy

What do I pay for?

I understand the economy and sliders in general, but there is still something I am unsure of: What exactly does my civ pay for in terms of manufacturing points (MP)and research points (RP)? I know I pay for basic production, but what about planet tile bonuses, racial bonuses, starbases bonuses, anomaly bonuses, etc.

Some simple numbers for example:
I have a single factory generating 10 MP, 100% industrial capacity and 100% social production. So I will generate 10MP per turn at a cost of 10BC.

Now I build that same factory on a tile with a 100% manufacturing bonus. So I should generate 20MP per turn. Is that at a cost of 10BC or 20BC?

Similar question with respect to starbase bonuses, racial bonuses, etc.

I assume research is handled the same as manufacturing.

So the basic question is, do I pay for all the bonus production/research? Or is any of it a "free" bonus?

Thanks for any help.

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Mumblefratz

Join Date 07/2006

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AFAIK you only pay half price for bonus production. I think there's a difference between bonus tiles on the planet and civ wide bonuses, though it may only be whether or not the cost applies to planetary spending or to general expenses under your domestic spending.

As an example, in my current game I have a research planet that's generating 11,000 RP's per turn at a cost to the planet of about 2,000 bc's per turn. I don't know what, if any, general expenses this generates. I have substansial starbase assist (384%) and my tech capital and omega research center on the planet plus civ bonus and resource mining.

Kblore is probably one of the best economic resources around, though I haven't seen a post from him in a bit. It might help if you search for replies by Kblore and scan through a few of the threads that seem to be related to your question.

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Mumblefratz

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I went back into my current game and checked out the domestic spending page. There is a category under expenses called "Bonus Prod/Research". It looks like this covers the cost of bonus production from starbases and civ wide bonus. I have a lot of this going on now so I can't isolate the contribution from a single planet but I do think you only pay for 50% of this type of production.

I also took a closer look at the spending on my research planet. I have 1690 tp's of research which includes a 300% bonus tile, the 100% bonus of the tech capital and the 50% bonus of the omega research center. The maintenance of all buildings is 150 bc’s and my spending sliders are set to 100% research. My total spending is 1840 bc which equals the 1690 tp’s plus the 150 bc maintenance. So you do pay 100% for all on planet bonuses.

Just to close the loop, my starbase bonus for this planet is 360% and my civ wide bonus is 196%. The 1690 tp * 656% = 11086 which is the total research production for the planet.

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On the bonus tile example you do pay 20bc for the 20 MP.
The base cost will show on your planets screen.

The civ wide bonus's and planetary bonus's are only 50% cost, rounded up I believe.
The bonus production and research costs show on the Domestic spending page.

The bonus production from economic starbases are considered a planetary bonus.

And yes research costs are basically calculated the same as production costs.

The only things I'm not sure about being full cost or 50% cost are the special buildings like the Omega Research Center and Tech Capital -- it probably even varies with exactly how the building functions -- does it add to a civ or planetary bonus or to base production of the planet.

I could probably give a better answer if I was currently playing a game of GC2 but I'm taking a short break and bumming around playing Saga of Ryzom for a bit.

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Hi!

So you do pay 100% for all on planet bonuses.

Damn!

I always thought I pay 100% for bonus tiles, but only 50% for "wonder" bonuses (tech capital etc.). Eh, live and learn.

BR, Iztok

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Mumblefratz

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The only things I'm not sure about being full cost or 50% cost are the special buildings like the Omega Research Center and Tech Capital -- it probably even varies with exactly how the building functions -- does it add to a civ or planetary bonus or to base production of the planet.

I did explicitly verify both tech capital and omega research and you do pay full price for these. I expect that everything that gives a bonus to the specific planet, except starbases, costs 100% and anything that gives a civ wide bonus, plus starbases, costs 50%.

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Thanks for all the information.

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