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Seen the Amish Response?

to the school house shootings?

October 6, 2006 10:25:02 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
This is something that just drops my jaw- Here the Amish had there children butchered- and what do they do? They open there doors and hearts to this mans wife and children. They've even set up a fund for her and her children, so that when money is donated to them for this tragedy, some of it goes to her. There is even reports of them meeting with her-
To be honest, this just causes me to shake my head. I can not for the life of me fathom how I would respond if my child, or children where murdered and then to have the murdereer commit suicide- Would I want to break bread with his family??? If I had the means, would I set up a fund for the killers family??? I'm pretty sure my well of forgiveness doesn't run that deep.
There response has left me humbled and reflective on the lessons it has to teach.

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Reply #1 October 6, 2006 10:58:16 PM
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Why the Amish more than any other community?

Why would you blame a man's family base on his action? Do they participated, helped him, supported him?

If you feel that way, how do you think they feel? Don't you think they just want to disapear from the world's magnifying lence called the Media?

Edit: It seems to me the Amish needs much less help than any other community that has real problem in school violence. The Killer (in Hell he Burns) was not an Amish.
However, what about schools where it's people from the inside that do horrible things? I would try to help them, since they carry the problem. The Amish suffered a terrible thing, but heal the sick, not the healthy.

The Amish are healthy.
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Reply #2 October 6, 2006 11:12:00 PM
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Hey, back off Cikomyr.

The OP isn't saying they are better then any other group, he's just marveling at thier kindness and chairity in the matter. Most people wouldn't blame the guy's family, but very few would likely go to such great efforts, inspite of thier own loss, to reach out with such kindness.

He's being kind and reflective, and there is no need for you to get in a huff about it.


::edit::

Your edit went up before my post, so here is a small addition. The Amish are trying to heal the wounded. Like you said, the man's family is grieveing as well, not just for thier lost husband and father, but for the pain he has inflicted. Thier efforts are to mend those broken hearts and the broken home that lunatic left behind.

Cetainly, ther are other problems that need to be addressed in society, but I don't know what more could be expected out of them in such a short time.
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Reply #3 October 6, 2006 11:19:22 PM
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I'm just reflective on the fact they are capable of something I am not. I have no doubt they feel the pain and angush I would feel. Its the strength they have to stand up and do the right thing that leaves me in nothing short of pure awe

I don't recall the Columbine community coming togather to help the families of the killers, nor people expressing remorse for the family of the kid that flipped out and killed his principle. I know I sure never thought much about it... And now I am slightly ashamed that I never did
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Reply #4 October 7, 2006 1:11:02 AM
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The OP isn't saying they are better then any other group, he's just marveling at thier kindness and chairity in the matter. Most people wouldn't blame the guy's family, but very few would likely go to such great efforts, inspite of thier own loss, to reach out with such kindness.

He's being kind and reflective, and there is no need for you to get in a huff about it.


Yhea, sorry about the bluntness of my words. (serious). I wasn't trying to pick on the Amish, like I said, I beleive they are really nice and generous people. If there is a community to be saved in the Last Days, it should be them

However, I beleive our help should go to the peoples who needs it. Problem is, it's not always those who deserve it. God knows the Amish deserve it...
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Reply #5 October 7, 2006 1:23:54 PM
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Ah maybe you should read about them some. They are very Religious. Not surprising what their reaction would be.

Last pope forgave the guy that tried to kill him. Not everyone in the world is After revenge and hate. Its a good thing.
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Reply #6 October 7, 2006 2:23:02 PM
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I have read about them Malkuth. And am well versed in the religous side of society. And I know the Amish are not above ostracizing (sp?) as in the case of the mentaly ill Amish man that killed his family. When he was release from prision the Amish community shunned him. (Not that I disagree with that at all)
If somebody tried to kill me, I probably could forgive it- After all I'd still be here to forgive. But if somebody tried to kill my wife? my children? my father? my mother? I just don't know.
I agree the Amish outlook is a good thing. I just wish I TRUELY understood it, and there fore could apply it to my life more freely. Right now I'm looking at the bible I have on my selve, which is flanked by the Koran and Torah. I am just marveling at the fact the Amish have gotten something out of the Bible I have not- I am simply awe struck at there quick show of compassion, and saddened that I would not be able to show that level of love, understanding and forgiveness that quickly if at all.
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Reply #7 October 11, 2006 3:32:56 PM
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All you need to remember (and yes this comes from me, no I am not trying to be religious) is what would Jesus do? That simple. My well of forgiveness is very shallow indeed, but the philosophical side of me always tries to think of my statement. That is why I can't support our government with our wars for imperialist conquest, regardless of what I am told, nor can I support a political system which is corrupt and unjust. The Amish did what any one of us "should" do in such a situation. It shouldn't matter what your faith is. If we could all learn to forgive... ahhhh think of what the world would be like.
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