Has the upgrade bug been fixed where it costs way more to upgrade all your ships at once than to do them individually?

Has the upgrade bug been fixed where it costs way more to upgrade all your ships at once than to do them individually?

I never realised that there was a bug that was causing the problem that you described. I was always amazed at the total cost of upgrading my fleet and so rarely bothered.

RE: First Strike

The way I would like to see a "combat sequence" performed in a space battle is not one side and then the other (the current system). Even 'simultaneous' application of combat results across the board, while an improvement, could be a missed design opportunity.

To simulate 'maneuver' in a space battle situation, I would let the ships with the fastest speed and smallest hull sizes fire first. Add the ship's speed to its hull size value, and the highest-numbered ships fire first (or simultaneously, if their values are tied).

-1 Cargo Hull
0 Huge
+1 Large
+2 Medium
+4 Small
+6 Tiny

This will help give smaller ships more 'play' later in the game as well.

Just a thought...

Alan Emrich

Looks to me as though there will be no advantage to attacking first... Not sure how I feel about that. I guess I will have to play it a few times to determine how much it changes the game. My first thought is that I want my surprise attack back! Yet, upon further consideration, these ships dont exist in the abstract. They are in the real world (game world actually, but you know what I am trying to say) and thus able to react and respond to ship threats and attack percentages. I mean in the real world if a fighter craft from another race was heading in your direction your alertness to their location and possible hostile actions would be acute. Thus, the probability that all of the attack crafts would be able to fire a volley at you without you returning fire at the same time is sorta unrealistic. I see their point for the change, yet I am not sure if I want the change... Guess I am spoiled.
In either case, it should make the game interesting with this new twist.

Is the bug where there is no research during the first turn after loading a saved game fixed in 1.2?

Is the bug where there is no research during the first turn after loading a saved game fixed in 1.2?

I don't think that Stardock considers this behavior as a bug ...

Hey Frogboy, btw.. I know this has been said before but I'll say it anyways... You guys are doing a great job. I really appriciate the effort and creativity you and your team put into this game. You guys are a throw back to the days of Sierra when they were still growing and producing great games. I mean that as a compliment. You prove that great games doesn't come with big name licenses or the more $$$ the better the game. I know it's may not mean much, but thank you for what you guys are doing.

Anyways, back to my post. I was wondering, I'm pretty new to the modding thing. I know how to change the aliens and add a backstory to them. That's pretty much the limit of my modding. But is it possible to mod the UI where I can add starship captain's names into each individual ship in addition to the Ship names? Say another input area under the name of the ship for the Captain's name. If it's not possible, can you put that in?

re: first strike

don't get your knickers in a bunch. the tricky thing about adding something new to this game is making AI that can use it as well.

don't get me wrong, i really want an expanded list of components, and i've all ready thought of half a dozen possibilites. but i think it's only fair to realize they're outside the immediate scope of GC2. my thinking on this issue is, they're game developers. if i've thought of it, they probably have too. if i want it, they probably do too.

i'm more stoked on the UI fixes. and honestly surprised. i hadn't heard anything about that being a part of 1.2, but that was probably just me. but 'numerous fixes' all at once makes sense. it doesn't make sense to bait too people too much until you're actually almost done, i think. then you just get a bunch of impatient people hounding you.

also, this evolved into a pretty massive debatae when the changes to combat were first announced (they dabbled in the idea first while developing 1.11). the participants in that discussion talked about other ways to structure combat that might be interesting, like turn-based attacks with initiative, a-la D&D. if i remmeber correctly, the game was never meant to be about war exlusively. still, i think they are definately working on lots of ways to make combat more interesting. but you also have to maintain a sense of priority. without AI to use the things, there's no sense in adding all sorts of cool features yet.

so to extend that point, if more components are going to be a part of GC2, i think you an expenct a whole bunch of them to come out at once. possibly in an expansion.

What I fear is longer wars of attrition. This means more planets with production and starports for human players, more emphasis on production, more peace time military production. r.

Acutally all this is good..... if it happens.

I think the best compromise would have been, the attacker gets automatic full strength attack rolls with a first strike and normal random rolls in every other round of the fight. So, if your attacking ships have attack strength of 10, they automatically attack with that strength on the first firing round.

Still not the overwhelming advantage it is now, but it doesn't make it unrealistic. He who shoots first generally wins in the real world. This change strikes me as being nothing more than a way to cover an inherent weakness in the AI - that they don't have sense enough to attack first when possible.

Although, it will be nice to be able to build planet defender cruisers (medium hull) that might actually defend the planet. Currently I build them only to keep my military rating up, since they usually die before firing back, no matter how much defense they have.

Yay.

More incrimental "refinements" to the interface. Evidently this game wasnt ready to release when it was. By all means, continue developing the godamn interface...people are much more interested in that then say...new playable content.


Or god forbid you come out of your little realm of denial concerning real Multiplayer.


Stardock has managed to squander any goodwill it had from the release of this game, by being totally and consistently out of touch with what people really want to see expanded. Remeber, word of mouth can work both ways, and the word has started to turn decidely against SD for failing to expand or develop anything of significance to the game post-release. Nothing to make anyone who had enjoyed the game for a reasonable amount of time after release pick it up again.



And by all means, spend development time and charge people for a ship part expansion when the community will produce all manner of content along those lines for free.



No, I wont pay you for a token ship part pack. Im also not interested in playing the newest moderately revised version of your damn interface or the biggest waste of bandwidth next to these wretched message boards...the "metaverse". I will however, donate a few bucks for SD to buy themselves a clue.


In case youre wondering, this is the reaction you get when you let people believe you make development decisions based on meaningless web polls, when really, you just dont want to do something and because youre not capable.

3. # New battle system. Ships fire at the same time in battle. 4. # AI Improvements. Lots of tweaks that we think will make the game more fun, especially for veteran players.

This will help the AI since when playing against experienced human players the AI never gets in the first strike! However, battle will likely remain one sided even if inaddition the AI redesigns ships more often, because it often designs poor ships. In v1.11 on level Painfull, going from 2nd-gen to 3rd-gen the AI went from a heavy fighter (small) with missile attack 12 to a cruiser (large) with missile attack 4 and missile defense 4; 3 missiles where replaced with 1 missile and 4 chaff modules! Why waste space with poor/low tech defenses that would be better used by mid/high tech weapons! Also why did the AI not research better defenses if it was planning to use them!

In v1.11, the AI is still building too many embassies and morale centers. I understand you have addressed this for v1.2 and want to avoid scripting the AI but I still think adding the following rules would improve the planet build up:
(1) first two structures built on a planet should always be factories
(2) only factories may be built on manufacturing bonus titles
(3) only labs may be built on research bonus titles