It is in v1.11 already. Not much AI uses it currently but it gets enhanced over time.

Please, please let the attacker have some advantage - they normally do, at least during the first exchange, at least.

Will 1.11 savegames be compatible with 1.2 beta?

Will 1.11 savegames be compatible with 1.2 beta?

Well demo games were compatable with the real game so I would think so, i hope...

And Thanks for all of these updates you guys keep pouring out, they really improve this already awesome game!

sounds cool, and I wonder if Kryo's mod will be updated to 1.2 by my B-day coming next friday.

will there be a first strike capability for the attacker?

actually, that could be something important to consider stragetically. I don't know how they could code it so that it gives a first strike if a certain situation happens since its in space, but it would be another bit of strategy added into the game because some units in the Civ series (most notably archer type units) have first strike. However, the coding between Civ4 and Galciv2 is very different and the way combat occurs is different. Its something to consider however.

Actually, I rather like that idea of making first strike a really hard-to-research tech. I could see it being more interesting still if it only had, say, an 80% chance of working - but then that might lead many people to Save / Load until they get the first strike advantage.

Pity there's not much you can do about that, GC2 isn't the kind of game that can penalise players for rapid save / loads... the only way I could see around that would be to restrict saving to every X many turns - so you have to make a few more strategic moves before you are allowed to try again... but that'd probably just annoy people :/

Frogboy said: It is in v1.11 already. Not much AI uses it currently but it gets enhanced over time.

Is this on all the time and you have to update AI code to utilize this slowly through updates? I was waiting eagerly for this option! Also, I thought this was going to be an option that we would turn on or off to force it to use extra CPU cycles. I would not mind turns taking longer if the AI was... well all the things you said. Larger fleets, better use of ships, upgrading ships quicker (every month or 3 months (4 or 12 turns)).

For example, I got lucky with two 300 % researches. So when I research military, at 100% spending, at 100% research, I get laser I, II, and III, in one turn. So I am far outstripping the AI. I put up a starbase with all three defenses at +5 and +10 and just the beam 7 attack + starbase attack +1. I goto war with the idiot that put up an influence starbase near me. He procedes to THROW his ships (1 or 3 attack, no defense) at my starbase. Like 5 or 6 ships + a couple of fleets. Starbase has lost 1 hp at the end of it.

So, I guess I'd like the AI to just realize that it was not going to win a specific battle and not fight it. Regroup, rearrange, sue for peace, then attack when strong enough. Realize that AI will not be strong enough, ever, and sue for alliance to win that way (if enabled).

Also, on my wish list is: 1) I wish there was a way to force someone to break up their alliance through diplomacy. Once allied, always allied (but for events) it seems the computer is. 2) Giving the computer a warning about being in my territory with their (scout) ships. Remove or we goto war type of diplomacy. 3) (This is already mentioned) Ability to cancel a move order when a pop-up appears from an auto-pilot/auto-explore/auto-survey.

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Alternately the first strike thing could be a ship component. Call it 'Tactical Computers' or something.

Have it be a five tier research off of Advanced Computing, each level lets you add a module called Tactical Computer I-V (obviously) to the ship. The modules themselves could be (5% x module level) chance for first strike. So four max level modules would guarantee a first strike from that ship. If the opponent has computers you deduct the lesser amount from the smaller which would also add value to having more than four maxed units.

Hell, they could even be applied universally so you could have first strike capable defenders as well.

#19 by ManOWar2
Monday, May 22, 2006 10:30 PM






I cannot wait for 1.2.

I strongly recommand the "remove from territory or go to war" type of diplomay.

This feature is really missing.

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I agree. Also the ability to zoom in and out on the tech tree would be a nice added feature.

To all those crying about the removal of first strike I have to wonder if you actually read any of the posts on this forum. First strike was unbalancing because the AI doesn't use it properly, and it makes the game trivial once war starts. Adding it in as part of another tech tree would NOT solve this problem, if anything it would only make it worse because then you'd have it and the ai wouldn't....EVEN IF THEY RESEARCHED IT TOO.

Let me ask you this....out of 100 battles you fight: How many battles do you win because of first strike before this patch vs. how many does the ai win? If your answer is less than 95% I send you my apology, apparently you didn't know how to attack first any more than the ai does, and if that's the case, why would you want it back?