I want to be good, but...

Is good nerfed

I have yet to see a reason to play as the good alignment. Every ethical choice hurts you. The benefits of being good are really mild compared to neutral and evil. I've read that other civs will like you more, but that seems pretty intangible.

I'd really like to give good some extra bonuses. How about the following:

+15% population growth (due to family values...)
Influence bonus
Boosts HP as well as defense of ships

Any other ideas? I'd like to play good, but as it stands, it seems like a losing proposition.

--Brad

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This has been discussed a few times. The main points are that the United Planets stands for good races. If you are powerfull enough you can leave this but no one will be impressed, if you are evil and dont hold a majority vote expect to have them set laws which hurt you. Ohh also, there are events like uprising where evil races lose most of their planets

not good news!

Also expect no help if you are an evil race, you will find no allies really, and those who do help will not be very trustworty! The bonus you get for the planet things are not all that massive usually and in most cases i try to do the right thing.

I think its great, like real life doing the right thing is hard, being evil is easier...

Luke :Vader... Is the dark side stronger?
Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.
Luke: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?
Yoda: You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.

wow, how come the quotes from the original starwars are so powerfull, yet the prequels were so weak dialog

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One thing I liked about being a good empire is that your five largest colonies cost nothing. That does help the ol' economy out quite nicely. Also I had one incedent as a good empire when every planet that rebeled joined my empire though I was ranked 5th out of 8. That is how I "conquered" the Thalan Empire, all their planets rebeled and joined me.

That being said, I usually play as a nuetral race. Seems to work out well for me. I've yet to try playing as an evil race becuase the AI always seems to kick my butt in any aggressive military ventures I set out on. Seeing that most of the evil bonus are attack oriented, that doesn't work well for me.

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"The Empire Strikes Back" was written by Leigh Brackett, who among TV and movie scripts, wrote a lot of fantasy and science fiction. Personally, I think that he had his good stuff and his bad stuff, but his good stuff was really, really good. He also scripted my favorite Western movie of all-time, "Rio Bravo". He more or less did for John Wayne in that movie what he did for Harrison Ford in TESB. If you want great movie dialogue, you owe it to yourself to see Rio Bravo. He also scripted "Hatari!", which is a lesser film for sure, but definitely Hatari! has a lot more charm to it than other movies of its kind -- making African big-game hunters into sympathetic characters would not be easy in any other movie.

Now guess, just guess, who wrote the screenplays for Episodes I, II, & III. I'll give you a clue. Kind of rhymes with Gorge Puke-us. Ol' George does write a bit like Leigh Brackett, in that he has his good stuff and his bad stuff, but George's bad stuff is really, really bad. To more or less quote Harrison Ford on the topic of GL's movie dialogue: "You can sure write 'em, George, but nobody can act 'em."

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Cool, i will have to look that up, interesting points. I think also the fact that someone else directed it helped a lot, since he didnt direct 5 or 6.

I have heard the Harrison ford quote, though i heard it was something like "You can write this Sh*t but you cant act it!"

I think he proved with the new ones its not just sounds, or amazing effects, or even script. Its everything including casting!

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What's wrong with a little challenge?

So it's a "little" more difficult to be good than bad....I don't see what the big controversy is about. By mid-game everything evens out anyway. Besides there are more good races than bad so if you are good you will always have allies.

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A few OT notes..

First, Leigh Brackett was a woman. Second, she died in 1978 after handing in the very first draft for ESB. How much of that draft ended up in the final version is up for dispute; Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan claim very little did but credited her out of respect. Still, there is a "mood" to it that sets it apart from the other films, so who knows. And let's not forget Lucas wrote the original film's script by himself, which is still leagues better than the prequels. My point being that it's more likely ESB is good because Lucas had ideas for two good Star Wars movies, and not because he had "less to do" with the second one. Anyway, carry on.

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> +15% population growth (due to family values...)

I can assure you, you can definitely grow your population by being evil.

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yeah but net popualtion growth is also about less deaths and longer lifespans. I imagine evil races have slightly cutthrout, dare I saw Drow like, societies where your young death rates are high.

On the real main point though, Goods bonuses should be all about having friends. It may be intagable but it is very powerful. I like it that way.

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Sorry to have to ask this, but what is ESB?

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Empire Strikes Back. Most agree the greatest starwars film i think.

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