Search
Forum Home | Login
mikeswi
mikeswi
Join Date 03/2006
0

Confused about trade

March 22, 2006 3:37:56 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I'm confused about trading routes.

The value of the trade route is proportional to the length of the route, as well as the population of both the destination and home planet of the trade ship. -snip-. The income returned each turn by the route is proportional to the distance of the trade ship from the home planet.


I understand the first part - the longer the trade route, the more it's worth.

I don't understand the second part. If the freighter is further away from home, the route is worth more? So, it pays more to have a slow freighter that takes forever to get anywhere than to have a fast freighter that gets there and back in less time?
trade
Locked Post
Search this post
Advanced Search
Subscription Options
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Haasen
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #1 March 22, 2006 3:53:09 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Once your trade route is established, all traders move at one square per turn regardless of the speed of the freighter you made the route with, and the income you get that turn that is based on the current distance from the homeworld.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Skelton42
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #2 March 22, 2006 3:57:59 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
However, I have read in these forums that short routes can become insanely profitable by using overlapping economic starbases.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Haasen
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #3 March 22, 2006 4:01:54 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
However, I have read in these forums that short routes can become insanely profitable by using overlapping economic starbases.


True, but why not overlap a long trade route?
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
mikeswi
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #4 March 22, 2006 4:07:28 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Thanks
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Foslex
Join Date 04/2005
0
Reply #5 March 22, 2006 4:08:42 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Because of the cost of multiple starbases, in both up front bc fees and production spent. A route that's only 10-20 parsecs long can easily have four or five starbases acting on the freighter every single turn. You can overlap a longer route, but if it's several sectors long the cost to build the dozens of needed starbases will outweigh the long term benefit.

I buld trade starbases in areas where there is heavy freighter traffic (at least one every turn coming to or going from one of my planets), in starbases that are there for production boosts that happen to have trade routes pass through, and along short routes that can get a high percentage of turns in the starbase influence.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Enigmatical
Join Date 02/2006
0
Reply #6 March 22, 2006 5:00:14 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
So are you saying that the bonus to trading on an economic starbase only applies when a freighter is within that starbases area of influence?

What about the other economical bonuses to production etc... I take it the same applies there as well.

(Just clarifying as I dont think some people might realise this)
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
MrScout
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #7 March 22, 2006 5:03:22 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Well, there are TWO reasons you might want "short" trade routes.

1) Close Borders implies they don't like you much. Trade means they do (I've averted wars via trade)
2) Many economic starbases can make it very, very, very profitable

In my current game, I expanded like mad and ended up colonizing the same star system as a neighboring empire. Trade has, so far, averted complete war. Oh, there's been a couple of minor skirmishes, but nothing that a few hundred BC bribe won't solve. Its expensive, but business is business.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Graviton
Join Date 11/2003
0
Reply #8 March 22, 2006 5:08:00 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
So are you saying that the bonus to trading on an economic starbase only applies when a freighter is within that starbases area of influence?


Yes.

What about the other economical bonuses to production etc... I take it the same applies there as well.


Only the colonies within the range of the starbase get the production bonus. But this bonus applies every turn.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Francis Deschenes
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #9 March 22, 2006 5:29:50 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Because clonies don't move
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
cgrd
Join Date 02/2006
0
Reply #10 March 22, 2006 6:10:04 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Is the Starbase trade bonus per trade route per turn?
i.e. 5 routes in sphere of influence with a +30 trade bonus would = 150bc/turn

Are trade routes that do not belong to your civ included?
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
Haasen
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #11 March 22, 2006 8:08:52 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I'm a bit confused. Ignoring the production benefit of having the starbases overlapping on colonies, wouldn't 3 starbases completely covering a 24 square trade route bring in more money than 3 overlapping bases covering a 8 square route?

If I have a base trade of 10 at the start and a 20% bonus, am I earning (for my overlapping 3 starbases):
10*1.2+10*1.2+10*1.2=36 or is it 10*1.2*1.2*1.2*3 = 51.84?
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
mikeswi
mikeswi
Join Date 03/2006
0
Reply #12 March 27, 2006 7:00:00 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
One more thing I'm confused about. When I send a freighter to another world, who benefits? Me, them, or both of us?

I chose most of the evil ethical choices to get the bonuses, because I was tired of getting whomped early on. I didn't research the ethics tree, but apparently you're evil, good or neutral despite not "officially" picking one. The United Planets decided that evil governments should be limited to 3 routes and it devastated my economy.

So I embargoed the three governments that voted "yes" in revenge and started demanding money from them every week to make up for what I lost. I'm just not sure which of us is hurt more when I embargo them.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
View all recent posts
Mark all posts as read Delete cookies created by the forum Return to Top
Stardock Forums v        Server Load Time:   Page Render Time:
About us | Contacts | Privacy Statement | Register
©1995-2025 Stardock Entertainment. Galactic Civilizations is a registered trademark of Stardock Entertainment. Steam and the Steam logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation in the U.S. and/or other countries. Bank Gothic is a trademark of MyFonts and may be registered in certain jurisdictions. All rights reserved.