GalacticDuck01

Join Date 12/2008

Cathedral of Valor

Let me begin by saying this game has held my attention for a little over 2 years now. I've never enjoyed playing a game as much as Gal Civ 2 because of its depth and replay value. In fact, just recently, I discovered that I love playing as the Arcean Empire. The idea of a noble race that uses might to make right appeals to me. I've gotten to the point that I can play them passably well on tough (if I can get lucky enough during the initial colonization phase and if I can get enough research going.) I usually become unstoppable in a few years. In the last game I played, I didn't even have to research any defenses because one salvo of missiles with the Super Warrior ability made short work of everything I encountered.

I'm just a little frustrated that the Cathedral of Valor's soldiering bonus is still broken. Does anyone know (if anyone is even out there anymore...) whether there's a work around for this issue? Can I mod a file to make it do something different?

Thanks.

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Has it been two years already?
Still a god game, though!

There are two ways that comes to mind but the details is something you have to figure out for yourself, sorry about that.

Edit the files directly. The files you need to fiddle with is probably in the
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock Games\GalCiv2\Twilight\Data\English"-directory.
They are all in XML and should be easily opened with notepad and the content therein should be rather self explanatory.
Use one of the editors. They are all located in the
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock Games\GalCiv2\Twilight\Tools"-folder. Figuring them out is another matter.

As for witch file to edit, my best gues would be the PlanetImprovements.xml-file in the
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock Games\GalCiv2\Twilight\Data\English"-directory.

Best I can do, hope it helps.
Keep us posted on the progress, the few of us that´s left have to stick together

Rygel XVI - Dominar to over 600 billion (more or less) loyal subjects.

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Progress thus far:

Using the GC2ImprovementEditor, I tinkered with the Cathedral of Valor improvement. It seems that structures classified as "normal" cannot provide civ wide bonuses. When I made the CoV a "Super Project" or a "Galactic Achievement," the bonus works as intended, but that sucks because I can only build one.

Unless someone has an idea for a workaround, here's what I'm thinking of sticking with:

Cathedral of Valor

- 400 build cost (up from 300. Still no maintenance cost.)

- +15% to Soldiering.

- Removed 33% planetary defense bonus.

Since I can only build ONE Cathedral now, I decided to futz with the space cannon too (tech available before the cathedral.)

Space Cannon

- Same build cost, but only 2 bc maintenance cost instead of 3 since I'll probably be using these on my worlds instead of the Cathedral.

- 33% Planetary Defense down from 50%

- +15% Planetary morale instead of +10%.

Does this mod seem fair? I'm going to test it out to see what I think. The only thing that bothers me is that the CoV is available so early on that it could give the Arceans an unfair early soldiering advantage. Thoughts?

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Well, I never played that race before.
Embarrassing - I know!

As far as the unfairness in the early game goes, I don't see that as much of a problem since you cant use soldiering bonuses without enemy contact.
In my experience (or maybe its just my play style) it takes quite a while before you make "first contact" with your "new-found friends" and start to "negotiate trade terms".

If you are concerned with the balancing maybe you should just use some of the old XML-files instead so that the game reverts back to when you liked the balance.

That Space Canon thing I don't understand, though. What do you mean when you say build on planets?
I thought they were ship components.

Rygel XVI - Dominar to over 600 billion (more or less) loyal subjects.

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The Arceans have a technology available early on called "Planetary Fortification" which allows construction of a "Space Cannon" on your worlds which provides a 50% bonus to planetary defense and a 10% bonus to morale. Who doesn't feel a bit happier with a giant laser gun pointed at the sky? The next tech "Cathedral of Valor" Gives a structure which is supposed to add a 33% bonus to planetary defense and a 2% civ-wide bonus to soldiering. Since it doesn't actually give the soldiering bonus, all it does is give you a more expensive structure that provides a smaller bonus to defense. It has no maintenance cost, but still... That's just dumb.

So playing a game with an early 15% soldiering bonus didn't make me nearly as godly as I had anticipated. I figured that if I could simply research Planetary Invasion as early as possible, and if I combined that with my innate soldiering ability and the 15% from the Cathedral of Valor that I could be an unstoppable early invader. Fighting against the Yor on tough, however, did not go as anticipated. I had a total soldiering ability of 35, the Yor had an ability of 0, and yet I struggled to make headway invading their worlds. 1b of mine would kill maybe 2-3b of theirs. Maybe a bug, I don't know.

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Hmm, I see your point.
Did You remember to change the bayonets to can openers?
It does seems odd though, have you checked the technology level at the invasion screen?
Tech factors in as well as I'm sure You know. In fact, that's how I normally win my battles

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