leaving the UP

Is there an advantage to doing this??

why would you??

say.....the UP has outlawed war....but you want to go to war. I suppose that could be a reason.

any REAL advantages to doing it??

what actually happens?? do you lose the ability to trade or anything??

sorry for the noob question, im not new to the game. but recently i have been playing it a lot more, and i really want to get into the specifics.

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You lose the ability to have trade routes with other civilizations, yes. How this works like this when the minors don't have to be in the UP to trade, I don't know.

You still have access to the diplomacy i.e. trade screen.

I don't remember them outlawing war specifically, but the resolution where it moves ships might be one thing. The starbase module limit might be another one where it could be justifiable. Other than that, there's always the TA resolution that prevents the building of terror stars.

There's no real advantage, no. Highly situational.

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WIllythemailboy

Join Date 03/2006

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Basically, all it costs you is trade routes, and the positive laws the UP may have passed (free weapons on transports, speed on constructors, etc).

The only up side is getting out of the crappy laws - starbase module limit, delay at start of war, war tax, tax on starbases/planets in other people's influence, etc. There are quite a few scenarios where trade simply can't cover the expenses of staying in the UP.

I consider the ship-moving one to be the most powerful POSITIVE law they can pass - it's an instant AI killer. They can't plan ahead for it, you can. It automatically moves all the AI's ships into easily ambushed positions, and clears out all their mobile defenses, leaving your transports a free run (once you've cleared the orbiting ships). I guess that's the advantage of running a very influence-heavy empire, I never have a war in anyone else's territory. Even if I don't have any planets nearby, it's still my territory. More than once I've made peace and declared war again to bump their ships back to where the new border is

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I left the UP for the first time ever in a game last week. It was the first year, and my empire was still struggling economically. The vote was to push everyone back to "empire" government (whatever the default starting government type is). I was already at the top one (Federation?). The push back REALLY crippled my economy. I begrudgingly left the UP, thinking no trade meant no trade screens. Once I saw it just meant trade routes, I was ecstatic. I imagine I'll be leaving more often when early votes don't go my way, as I rarely ever build and send freighters.

Oh, and glad to be back after a nearly year long hiatus

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