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Pre-made ship designs not adding up?

August 7, 2008 11:31:29 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
In my current game, I have been observing that the default ship designs give to you as you gain tech are better then what you can put together.

For example, a design for a large hull is 20-something beam attack, 30 shield defence, as well as the best engine I have and a life support module. When I tried building on a large hull, all I could fit was 30 shield defence, 12 beam attack, and nothing else.

Three questions:

1) is there a way to see the design with the non-cosmetic upgrades still there? I know there is the upgrade button, but you have to put everything back on, and I run into the same problem.
2) Is this normal, or am I the only one to which this happens?
3) Is there any way to make my own designs as space-efficient as the default design?
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Xrati
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Reply #1 August 8, 2008 12:43:12 AM
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There's an option box in the main menu that let's you keep all the existing parts on a ship. Just check it off.
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Reply #2 August 8, 2008 1:17:40 AM
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you mean, in the options? I've gone through all of them, and I don't see it... Sorry if I'm being dense, by the way
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Reply #3 August 8, 2008 6:42:50 AM
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The option mentioned above is called 'Remove Functional Components...' and you can check/uncheck it to see the designs with/without engines/weapons/modules etc. Also, you may have to scroll down in the menu somewhat to see it...you may not even realize that you could scroll as it is hard to see. So...look to the right side and see if you have scroll arrows or a scroll bar.

Secondly, there is a known issue in the auto-designer that allows it to create ships that exceed the space limits for a given hull. So, essentially it builds ships that fit much more equipment/weapons into a hull than we poor humans can.

Hope this helps
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Reply #4 August 8, 2008 9:31:24 AM
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Secondly, there is a known issue in the auto-designer that allows it to create ships that exceed the space limits for a given hull.


Do you know if affects the A.I. also? Will they get the same 'benefit'. I guess there is no way to tell. It would make creating your own ships somewhat mute.
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Reply #5 August 8, 2008 10:47:50 AM
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It would make creating your own ships somewhat mute.


It would with the exception of highly-specialized ships. If you want avg joe combat ship, the AI-builder is the way to go. If you want a super-fast 1 attack spore popper, you must build that yourself. If you want a 753hp Iconian behemoth...you must make it yourself.
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Reply #6 August 8, 2008 11:50:12 AM
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The option mentioned above is called 'Remove Functional Components...' and you can check/uncheck it to see the designs with/without engines/weapons/modules etc. Also, you may have to scroll down in the menu somewhat to see it...you may not even realize that you could scroll as it is hard to see. So...look to the right side and see if you have scroll arrows or a scroll bar.Secondly, there is a known issue in the auto-designer that allows it to create ships that exceed the space limits for a given hull. So, essentially it builds ships that fit much more equipment/weapons into a hull than we poor humans can. Hope this helps


One problem - if he's using the newest expansion, that option is no longer there. For some reason it's been left out.
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Reply #7 August 8, 2008 2:06:24 PM
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One problem - if he's using the newest expansion, that option is no longer there. For some reason it's been left out.


Yes it's been left out, but for me, at least it defaults to "off". Meaning that when I upgrade a ship, I have all functional components visible.

Asmodean

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Reply #8 August 9, 2008 9:13:53 PM
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Navigate to My Documents\My Games\GC2Twilight\ and open the Prefs.ini file (it's text, so it'll open in Notepad).

Under the Interface heading you should see a line like this:

StripComponentsWhenUpgrading=0

If it doesn't exist or the zero is a one, change it.
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