24-hour real-time clock? » Forum Post by DMFan

There is a slider in the options menu, look closely. (Click on the arrows on the right) I did not find it at first, too.

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I examined the options screen for a while but I didn't find the slider you told me about... I have no arrows on the right (maybe because I'm playing at 1280x1024?). I checked all four menus (Game - Interface - Audio - Video).

Maybe you can post a screenshot?

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Same here, there is no slider in the options menu.

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I have not scrolled down the scroll bar, but it should look like this:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/nopesayer/TA195options.jpg

If not, I guess you have to repeat the update process as follows:
https://forums.galciv2.com/315620/page/3/#1777774

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Ok, now I see why we didn't understand each other.

You're trying to tell me how to make the game show the real-time clock, but I already checked the option.

What I was trying to ask is if there's a way to use a clock which uses 24 hours not 12 like american clocks do... i want to see 16:30 not 4:30 PM.

Is there a way to do it?

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Philocthetes

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a clock which uses 24 hours not 12 like american clocks

Pardon my provincialism, but are you implying that household digital clocks outside the US use what I was brought up to think of as "military time?" If that's so, I hope I can find a good import option when my alarm clock dies.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock

24-hour is the international standard notation of time.

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Pardon my provincialism, but are you implying that household digital clocks outside the US use what I was brought up to think of as "military time?" If that's so, I hope I can find a good import option when my alarm clock dies.

Yes. It's much easier to keep straight. It was one of my biggest surprises when I moved to Europe.

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Pardon my provincialism, but are you implying that household digital clocks outside the US use what I was brought up to think of as "military time?"

Lol.

Seriously, though, can we get a real 24h clock for GC2 please?

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Ok, sorry i misunderstood the problem. But really - there are more important issues the devs could fix than having a 24h clock. Its not that hard to guess the right time if presented in 12h style. And i am an european accustomed to 24h

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True, and I probably wouldn't have noticed it if not for this thread.

But as long as they're in the mood for a couple of quick fixes, might as well keep this in mind. Maybe just clicking on the clock to switch it from 12h to 24h mode?

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Philocthetes

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But really - there are more important issues the devs could fix than having a 24h clock.

No doubt. But we have a rich tradition around here of asking for everything, including a scalable, moddable kitchen sink.

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And look how our persistence got us the 'zoom-to-cursor' option!

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But really - there are more important issues the devs could fix than having a 24h clock.

Well, actually I was just asking if there was an option hidden somewhere or some easily doable mod.

On a side note they could have shown the clock taking it straight from the operative system without any kind of formatting and now we wouldn't be talking about it.

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Zydor

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On a side note they could have shown the clock taking it straight from the operative system without any kind of formatting and now we wouldn't be talking about it.

Then someone would say "Thats a naff clock, can we have it reformatted" - who'd be a Dev

Regards
Zy

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Pardon my provincialism, but are you implying that household digital clocks outside the US use what I was brought up to think of as "military time?" If that's so, I hope I can find a good import option when my alarm clock dies.

first I thought you were joking

I'm going to found a 24h clock online shop business, strictly not for military use.
I'm going to be rich, say 280 million people recognize they need a clock

Seriously, you are not able to easily buy a 24h clock

?

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Philocthetes

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Seriously, you are not able to easily buy a 24h clock

I admit I've never thought to shop for one before now. The only ones I've seen have been in data centers or military settings in film and TV.

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WIllythemailboy

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Most digital watches have the option, but you need to go pretty far out of your way to find an actual clock with 24 hour time.

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Zydor

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Most digital watches have the option, but you need to go pretty far out of your way to find an actual clock with 24 hour time.

I'm going to be rich, say 280 million people recognize they need a clock

Want a Business Partner ? I'm in

Regards
Zy

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Hey, they are Americans, don`t forget that. F**k the metric system, f**k the 24h clock, America is a nuclear superpower, thats reason enough to do it their own way, no matter what rationality or others say.

(dont take that personal, just joking ^^)

P.S.: Just recognized the ship intelligence report uses metric system - that makes it fair

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Philocthetes

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F**k the metric system

Don't get me started. I'm from that tiny US cohort who went through high school when it looked like we were going to ditch the world of three polished barely corns laid end to end for the elegance of 1 cc of water masses 1 gram. Then the '80s kicked in hard, and hair wasn't the only thing that got really stupid.

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WIllythemailboy

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F**k the metric systemDon't get me started. I'm from that tiny US cohort who went through high school when it looked like we were going to ditch the world of three polished barely corns laid end to end for the elegance of 1 cc of water masses 1 gram. Then the '80s kicked in hard, and hair wasn't the only thing that got really stupid.

The funny thing is, I work with both, but in highly defined areas. At work (ISU chemistry department) nearly everything is metric. I have no problem thinking of water boiling at 100, but can't seem to wrap my mind around weather being in celcius. Forget driving in kph, that's just silly.

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Zydor

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The problem is - its what we are used to. UK is slowly going metric, taking forever and a day, but we are getting there. I lived in Germany for 14 years in the days of my youth, and all is divisible by ten/multiply by ten - its hugely simpler - weather, distance, temperature etc etc all links together logically.

If we were to have a clean sheet, and have the choice between the ones below

System A
Unit of measure based on 1 (inches), 12 (inches in a foot), 3 (feet in a yard), 1760 (yards in a mile), and the real doozy 6 (feet in a fathom)

System B
Unit of measure based on 1 (millimetre) , 10 (millimetres in a centimetre), 100 (centimetre in a Metre), 1000 (metres in a kilometre)

Its a bit of a no-brainer .... as for Hectares, acres, perches, rods, chains et al used inside a non metric system ..... arrrgh

Just dividing by ten (etc) is sooooo much simpler to achieve the same end.

Have a think about this one - why the hell are we using 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, 24hrs in a day, and 365 days in a year (366 on leap years...). I reckon ET phoning home would have a field day explaining that one to his relatives

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Zy

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WIllythemailboy

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Just dividing by ten (etc) is sooooo much simpler to achieve the same end.

For those who can do simple math in their head, it's not that much better. In fact, it makes certain errors more common - who hasn't misplaced a decimal at some point of their lives?

Have a think about this one - why the hell are we using 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, 24hrs in a day, and 365 days in a year (366 on leap years...).

That's mainly a holdover from mechanical clocks - a lot of things were based on gear wheels with 60 teeth, or multiples of 60. 365 days is kinda imposed by nature.

OTOH, quite a few Standard measurements work well for those who have little math ability. Unlike base 10, 12 inches can be divided evenly in several different ways, as can 36 inches. 5280 can be divided in a truly astounding number of ways, including by 11 (but not 7 for some reason). Yes, they are a holdover from a less advanced time, but so is almost everything everything else you can think of.

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That's mainly a holdover from mechanical clocks - a lot of things were based on gear wheels with 60 teeth, or multiples of 60. 365 days is kinda imposed by nature.OTOH, quite a few Standard measurements work well for those who have little math ability. Unlike base 10, 12 inches can be divided evenly in several different ways, as can 36 inches. 5280 can be divided in a truly astounding number of ways, including by 11 (but not 7 for some reason). Yes, they are a holdover from a less advanced time, but so is almost everything everything else you can think of.

Nice idea, but not true, mechanical clocks had gears with 60 teeth because time was divided in units of 60, not the other way around.

Check this wikipedia article:

Wiki on 60 seconds/minutes.

Wiki: Unlike most other numeral systems, sexagesimal is not used so much nowadays as a means of general computation or logic, but is used in measuring angles, geographic coordinates, and time.

One hour of time is divided into 60 minutes, and one minute is divided into 60 seconds. Thus, a measurement of time such as "3:23:17" (three hours, 23 minutes, and 17 seconds) can be interpreted as a sexagesimal number, meaning 3×602+23×601+17×600 seconds or equivalently 3×600+23×60−1+17×60−2 hours. As with the ancient Babylonian sexagesimal system, however, each of the three sexagesimal digits in this number (3, 23, and 17) are written using the decimal system.

Similarly, the fundamental unit of angular measure is the degree, of which there are 360 in a circle. There are 60 minutes of arc in a degree, and 60 seconds of arc in a minute.

In the Chinese calendar, a sexagenary cycle is commonly used, in which days or years are named by positions in a sequence of ten stems and in another sequence of 12 branches; the same stem and branch repeat every 60 steps through this cycle.

Why exactly there are 24 hours in a day has something to do with the duodecimal system the sumerians also used, but exactly what, I don't know and can't seem to find any convincing reasoning on...

365,24... days a year is pretty obvious, making that 100 days or 1000 days a year simply isn't practical...

Edit: fixed link.

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