This basically seems to be calming down now which is good.
Let's table any further discussion about the potential inequities of deliberate non-submissions until we resolve the commissioner issue. I do believe that our rule 5 catch all is sufficient to deal with the issue. I also believe that to try and do anything like counting announced non-submittals as a submission at the last minute for submission bonus purposes is wrong as well. Any kind of rule in this regard will be very confusing and probably not very effective. If this path is chosen I would prefer to abandon the submission bonus entirely.
But in any case we can certainly bring up what if anything to do about this after the election is out of the way. By then things will have calmed further and it can be discussed with less regard to how it's recently helped or hurt various teams. We just have too much going on for a drawn out rules discussion at the moment. Wait a week and then we can get into it.
DA and I have communicated over PM and I think we are good now. As for the election, it doesnt seem that either DA or I really have a desire to be commissioner, but are both willing to take that role if it is needed. I'm really quite happy with being a team captain & scorekeeper. I will say I wont be voting for myself, although I wont say exactly how I'll be voting.
Oh great. This really isn't what we need here. First you decline the nomination then accept and then seem to back down here.
Please don't take anything badly here. I know nerves may be frayed and my intent is certainly not to worsen the situation.
My interpretation is that initially declining the nomination was your natural feeling but then you accepted basically because the league does need a commissioner and you were willing to do the work if no one else did. Basically the above is the same kind of expression.
There's nothing wrong with being a reluctant candidate. Like I said earlier the best person is probably the one that wants it the least.
However the appearance of a flip flop is not helpful.
I feel though that an election should still be held, i don't think i should just be able to take the position without everyone having their say who they would like. Of course i would need a nomination to be able to run for the position, and do remember what you are getting yourselves into, i'm about as blunt as a 100 year old axe but will always call it right down the middle.
Actually this really isn't all that helpful either because it further muddies a situation that was just starting to become clear.
Obviously no one would object to Neilo being commissioner again. However, are you willing to commit to being commissioner forever? If so then we can discuss it, but if not then sooner or later pretty much all the veteran players in this league will need to step up and take a turn. Going back to you is a safe and familar choice. It's a choice that will occur sooner or later but now is simply not that time. I'm sure sooner or later I'll take a turn at it as well but again now is not that time.
We currently have two very credible nominees. Yes they may be reluctant but so what. They've both stated that they don't particularly want the job but are willing to do it because the league needs them to. Nothing has changed that makes this any different.
I say the league needs a commissioner and that even if the two candidates are somewhat reluctant it's time for one of them to take their turn at the job. Then in another 3 or 4 months it can be someone elses turn. But flailing around and flip floping in front of the league is not very helpful.
I still say the election should proceed as I outlined last night (and corroborated by Silver). The election starts on the 13th (tomorrow) and runs until midnight of the 20th. The candidates are KP and DA. For all I care KP will vote for DA and DA will vote for KP however one of them will be our new commissioner for a period of at least 3 months at which time they can step down if they wish.
Votes should be PM'd to me or Silver. We will share all results that we recieve and announce the final results jointly once the election is over. All votes will be acknowledged with a return PM.
We need to proceed with this with no further complications, the league can't take much more.
Everybody OK with this?
