Frogboy, you kick ass as usual.

For those who may not have read far enough, I wasn't really stating that Civ 4 is garbage. I personally didn't like it long enough to play more than about 3 games, but it seems like an okay game. My point was merely that blanket statements about a game based on my particular biases aren't valid.

Dude, you guys see the latest bargain bin game? Apparently this lame company "valve" is trying to sell 5 games for $50 - or $10 a game. They couldn't even come up with a good name for it, so it's just called the orange box or something. Why? Because it's packaged in a friggin' orange box! Who would buy such junk? $10 games would suck. I can't imagine anybody would be willing to buy something so cheap. I even heard that one of the games, "Portlet" or something (what a lame name) does NOT HAVE MULTIPLAYER. I've been posting on their forums how lame that is to have a FPS game that doesn't have multiplayer and they're all "have you even played it?" and I'm all "STFU N00B". Totally showed them.

(I own the orange box and think it's awesome, Portal in particular. Just making fun of the "bargain bin" logic. [Low price] && [Good deals] != "bargain bin")

One person's cheese is just another person's maximum efficiency strategy. I look forward to maximizing the upcoming tournament mode. I'd also enjoy multiplayer - but I'm thankful the AI never quits and is always willing to play another game no matter how badly it did last time. I'm not sure I'd be a very popular multiplayer opponent if other online games are any indication. I'd much rather have more single player support for this sort of game where play time can be erratic but expected fun is consistent.


Does this mean a third expansion is out of the question no matter the sales? Is there a target sales number that will justify expansion 3? Am I just crazy to still want more?



- Wyndstar

Not for a while.

According to Frogboy in last nights live chat this would be in GCIII assuming they do a GCIII He did say this probrably would be washed up though for the multiplayer side of things.

It's not the exact same game as Civ though.  GalCiv II, out of the box, allows you to have a massive amount of customisation control where your units are concerned.  If you're playing multi you can't expect other players to hang around while you fiddle with cosmetic ship parts.

So yes, you can expect some resistance to the idea of turning a single-player game where you can spend as much time customising your ships as you like, into a multi game where other players are going to complain and/or quit if you so much as take the time to quickly plop components in the right places on a template design.

Personally, I never made any friends playing Civ multi, not did I ever get to hang with a bunch of players who were in it for long haul gameplay as opposed to throwing stacks of doom at cities.  I gave up on that pretty quickly and focused on the single-player experience which, thanks to the modding community, got a lot better.

 

You know there are some great ways that GalCiv could be multiplayer.  For example, a native play-by-council mode, where all the players can collaborate, essentially speeding up gameplay by allowing each player to have a different screen open for editing, negotiating or viewing.  The other players would be able to view those other screens and offer suggestions.  Imagine having six players debating the placement of hull jewellery until a particular ship template is perfect?

See now that's something that players who traditionally like single-player could really learn to appreciate.  Best of all, it doesn't require everyone to be online at the same time, if someone has to go then the rest of the players can keep going, the pace essentially determined by players returning to the game to catch up on what happened since they logged off.

Well it depends on the sort of players you bring to the game.  I play Minecraft and the sort of players who play that are quite content to work together or do their own little thing as the mood strikes them.  The point is, you can have a lot of fun together and have a productive empire-building game, if the tools are there to do it.