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January 13, 2007 6:20:04 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
In the last three games GalCiv2: DA b2 games I've played I had great relations with about 1/2 of the empires, and so so with about 1/4 and there has been just one that really had it out for me.

First game I was a custom, then the Thalians, then the Iconians; and about mid game, somewhere around the first empire getting knocked out it happens, like clockwork...

One empire attacks me, and within 20 turns, all the rest of the empires attack me! It seems not to matter what alignment I have, what my relations with them were, or the size of my military. In fact, in the last game the three *strongest* empires were all friendly/close with me but after only about 10 turns declared war.

This has killed the fun of DA for me. It's impossible to keep ALL the empires liking you. I don't usually complain about game dynamics like this, but I have been telling people to buy GalCiv2. If this isn't fixed soon, I'm going to recommend they leave the expansion on the shelf and pick up SC.
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Reply #1 January 13, 2007 6:25:40 PM
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What were your relations with the Drath and Altarians? The Drath can very easily persuade other civs to go to war with anyone, and the Altarians can get help from other good civs if you get in a fight with them.
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Reply #2 January 13, 2007 10:06:18 PM
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The Drath are really good at causing chaos when they don't like people. Or, sometimes, even when they do.
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Reply #3 January 14, 2007 12:12:50 AM
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Neither the Drath nor the Altarians were present in my last game, and the two custom races that were present in their stead did not have super abilities. It was the Korx that declared war on me, then the Krynn, then EVERYBODY.
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Reply #4 January 14, 2007 1:43:18 AM
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What kind of treaties did they have with each other?

Civs will often go to war to protect their economic and research interests. Its quite nasty when they link, one by one, into war with you via treaties. Best idea is to have treaties of your own, so that at the very least you'll get some support.
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Reply #5 January 14, 2007 1:26:28 PM
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It's impossible to keep ALL the empires liking you.


It's interesting to hear someone say that, because my last few games have all been diplomatic victories. Even the civs that were wiped out by my allies had mostly good relations with me.
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Reply #6 January 15, 2007 12:36:42 PM
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Actually I am glad that there is this element of uncertainty. Before DA, all you had to do was keep an eye on your diplomatic relations and you would never be caught unaware. That seemed to eliminate most of the tension in the game.

Dan
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Reply #7 January 15, 2007 1:00:07 PM
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Actually I am glad that there is this element of uncertainty. Before DA, all you had to do was keep an eye on your diplomatic relations and you would never be caught unaware. That seemed to eliminate most of the tension in the game.


Not true. Even being able to keep an eye on your relations still did you no good if the empire didn't like you. I've done my best to sway other race's opinions of me only to end up having to wipe them out a few weeks later.

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Reply #8 January 15, 2007 1:08:38 PM
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The treaties thing is the weird part. I had an economic treaty with the strongest race (and relations were close), while the Korx had no treaties with that race.

I suppose it could have been the chain of treaties...war with a friend of a friend of a friend...

Still, doesn't seem right to go from close-->war in under ten turns.
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