See what the fleetsim says

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It was meant as a thought experiment.

A lot of folks have chimed in about fleet size, hull size, defense and the like.

Time for them to put their reps on the line and take a stand!

I'd go with the Terran's as well.

I'm alittle torn, but I gotta give it to the humans.

Their superior firepower outdoes the Iconian's 2:1 HP advantage.

The Terrans are toast.
Their ships lack the defenses and hp to take more than one shot from an iconian ship.

In that image we can not even see the Terrans most powerful ships.


Anyone ever used the Lucky Rangers?

I used to get them when I first played the game (not any more though).

They have mass drivers and armor, only. Rather like the Terran fleet.
They are very staunch ships.

I probably don't get them now because I always have an overwhelming advantage.
But, those ships, especially when fleeted, were practically unstoppable.
With a little experience advantage, they could not be defeated until the ultimate weapons were researched.

Even with no PD defenses, the Terran ships do have some defense (square root of 455). The Iconians only have 80 defense (plus their square root of the others) spread across only 4 ships against over 500 offense of the Terrans.

Should be a clear advantage to the Terrans.

I am really looking forward to the results of this battle.

I only hope ShuShu plays it out a few times using a saved game, in case random rolls make that much of a difference.
And it would be nice if it could be arranged for each fleet to attack the other.

Hi!

I am just curious what folks think will happen.

One fleet will win with some losses, the other will be completely destroyed. That's the best prediction I can give you from data you presented.

BR, Iztok

That's the best prediction I can give you from data you presented.

Actually, it's not. This is a problem in modeling. It's true that an exact solution can't be determined from the incomplete data given, however, with a few not too unreasonable assumptions the numerical odds can indeed be calculated.

When I was taking an Electrodynamics course many years ago, I was given the problem of calculating the electromagnetic fields around a power company worker standing 10 feet from a 2KV transmission line. I had absolutely no clue how to even begin the problem. The next class the professor went over the solution. The first step was to model the power company worker as a conducting sphere 6 feet in diameter. From there it was a simple problem in geometry to arrive at the solution. The moral of the story is, when faced with an unsolvable problem, simply change the problem to the most closely related problem that you can solve.

With this in mind, I’ll go even further out on the limb and be even more specific in my prediction.

Terrans win losing 4 to 5 ships, 87.5% of the time.
Terrans win losing 3 or 6 ships, 11.5% of the time.
Any other occurrence, approximately 1% of the time.

If the Iconians actually do win, then run out and buy a lottery ticket, because it must be your lucky day.

It's difficult to make a good call. The Terrans have more than twice the Iconians' firepower and more than twice their total defense. Additionally, the weapons are spread out across more ships, so losing ships won't hurt them as much. On the other hand, the Iconians are better matched in terms of equipment type - armor to defend against Terran mass drivers, while the Terrans have no protection against Iconian missiles - have almost twice the hit points, and will fire first.

It will be close, but I'm going to have to go with the Iconians.

oops sorry

Terrans 5
Iconians 5

one winner, one loser 1

In this case, the terrans will win due to the coding scheme used in GalCiv2 related to fleet battles. as the entire fleet focuses on a single ship until it is destroyed, the terrans will overcome the Iconians HP for each ship in 2 rounds max, causing a sig loss in overall attack power for the Iconians each time. On the other hand, the Iconians will kill 1-2 Terrans in each round due to 1-2 Iconian ships being needed to destroy each Terran ship. This will cause medium losses in attack power for the terrans each round.

the terrans will be without many of their ships, but are likely to still have enough attack power to kill that last Iconian ship, or at least cause enough damage that the last 3-4 Terran ships will be able to overcome the Iconian ships defence+HP before it wipes them out.

Terrans 7
Iconians 6

one winner, one loser 1

I agree with OZ, that I would never voluntarily participate in this battle on either side.

Great idea Shushu.

I think I will have to go with the Terrans. They seem to have the fire power and numerical superiority. Should be enough.