Not agreed. If you want genocide to the race that surrendered, it is your problem to make it up with the empire it surrendered to.

I really don't think there shall be any restrictions about to who a losing empire surrenders to as this often spices up the game.

In GC2 there are probably more ways to play the game than players, so don't assume we all "will exact retribution".
I, for one, will be happy once an enemy is no longer a threat, regardless of where he/she/it went. The newly formed entity could, of course, be or become an even bigger threat, but at least we're not immediately at war!

I've had games where 6 teams surrendered to the iconians even though they didn't get involved in any of the wars. They had 3/4 of the map without lifting a finger. i had to dig in and go for a tech victory.

Yeah, I hate it when they surrender to an empire I did not want to destroy yet, because they do become my new target when that happens. What I have learned to do is once I have an empire down to only two or three planets, I make peace with them for money or teches, then wait till I have a large enough fleet of warships and transports near by to take all remaining planets in one turn. That usually works but sometimes they go ahead and surrender to someone else anyway even when I am not technically at war with them.

I think the way it works is great.
After all - they don't always surrender to somebody else. They also surrender to you sometimes. Someone from stardock once said the decision to surrender to somebody it's a complicated process taking a lot of things into account, especially the dfferent AI profiles and relationships.

Wouldn't a human player do the same? When I was loosing in a "fictional" multiplayer game - I would give my ast colonies to somebody else as well. And believe me: not to the one who harresed and crushed my beautiful and peace loving nation. Why should they just watch their inevitable extermination?
And where is the problem when they surrender to your allies? When they are your allies and you go for a diplomacy, research etc. victory everything is fine. If you wanted to go conquest you would have to deal with your "allies" at some point anyway. This way they only find out who they allied with a bit earlier...
And why attack the nation they surrendered to? If you wanted to just wipe put that race - they are gone. If you want to conquer you schouldn't care about any other nation anyway.
And I think 2-3 or more surrendering to the same race is actually fun, because you get a worthy opponent. Maybe even one who is to strong. But that only adds to the overall experience I think. I can understand that some like to crush one race after the other and all of them behaving like little lamb waiting for the slaughter, but that would be boring for me.
And Allies: I think it's great that they conquer planets of my enemy. That's why your allied, isn't it? They help you. When your strong enough you don't need allies, but in some situations where I was sitting on a plate or a rce in my backyard declared war on me while I was occupied on another front - it were my allies that saved me by invading enemy planets! And I don't know how the game should take into account who invested more ships in breaking down a defense fleet in orbit on wich planet and so on. I guess you take advantage of planets some AI player "cleared" for you, don't you? I guess people would complain as well when allies would just sit around sending some fleets from time to time. And the way it is now is realistic in my opinion.

One thing though - I agree that the human player should have the option to accept a surrender from another race or not. Whatever reasons someone might have. Maybe they don't want colonies on the other side of the map in the influence spheres of empires they don't want to confront at this point.

OK, that's just what I think.

If someone surrenders colonies to you that you don't want (as was mentioned: on the other side of the galaxy), you could always just give them away to someone else. No border problems with the other races that way, and the receiving race probably likes you more. Even better, give the colonies to a race that doesn't have any influence in the location of those colonies. Then the receiving race has more strained relations with the others around those colonies. Maybe you can use that to get the two top players fighting each other, leaving you to pick up the pieces. Weee.

This is why I didnt want multi-player. As mentioned above, if we knew we were losing we would rather give our remaining stuff to someone else that might revenge us. I would expect the new threads to be people demanding that stardock block players from doing that as they are "robbed" of their rewards. Crying foul when the AI does something that we ourselves would do is a bit off I would say.

Peronally in an MP game I would gift all my ships to my enemies enemy and then gift my tech/cash and planets. Even if my enemy managed to take the few planets I transfered the other player is now much stronger than before and poses a hell of a risk.

Wouldn't a human player do the same? When I was loosing in a "fictional" multiplayer game - I would give my ast colonies to somebody else as well.

Isn't a human player's tendency to bail out on a game when they're losing one of the stated reasons most people in this forum wouldn't use multiplayer, though?

I hate how I'm done conquering everyone of their planets except their main base (with industrial and economic capital) and their PQ4 planet, and they decide to surrender to someone else. I know I'd do the same thing as them in multiplayer, but it's really annoying, especially when the planets have some galactic achievements or trade goods you want

Generally, I like to take over my enemy's planets in one or two turns, but crushing their forces and then positioning carriers for a single mass invasion.

They don't get a chance to surrender.

I think the AI is quite good at picking whom it surrenders to. Pick the worst possible option for you and that 9/10 times is whom it surrenders to. Which is why it is so frustrating.

I always pick my fights with the strongest AI first. If you fight a weaker opponent they will inevitably surrender to the strongest. All your doing is making your enemy super power stronger.

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I like that they surrender. And yes I do get mad. But it inspires me to rethink my plan, which is a GOOD thing.

To just have them sit there and get slaughtered by a superior enemy seems like it may bore me.