Funny how everybody are so politically correct with their comments....well you go where the wind takes you I guess....

Males are more logic then women and I think that women are more creative then men so it's probably good to have her there. Also strange to hear about a women that's good at math and science (I like math but I'm not very good at it )
And shes good at her job too!

Space program? Aren't you guys in dire straits about now? Should you really be whiling your time away on Galciv2 ?

I don't agree with that one. this news article may show to other females around the world that being a game lead developper is at least possible and females really have something to bring in an industry dominated by male

Although this may have been true when feminist and civil rights movements were getting underway and some saw uncertaintly in what a women could do its not the same in the contemporary world. Or Atleast the western 'civilized' world. Females are less reluctant to go into primarily male dominated areas and males into female dominated areas, nurses, stewards, men looking after the family while the women has a career etc. Its not abnormal, but the ratio isnt equal either. The ultra exciting world of software development should be no different

Also strange to hear about a women that's good at math and science

Go to a university there are a lot of women that excel in both subject areas. Depends where you are, you could be out in the middle of the American doustbowl or the South, not too many intelligent people will hang around there for long. They tend to move up in the world fast leaving the plebians in the dust.

That's why it's useless to bring up some generalization.

Nope. Generalizations come from the truth.

Better be polite and embrace the facts that we know (galciv2 is great etc) than speculate why and how Cari is bad

Didn't say shes bad.

I had no idea, I thought Brad was the lead developer.

We don't have much hierarchy here.  Brad is the Designer/Project Manager, which means that he's got the final word.  Lead Developer/Programmer isn't really a management title, at least at this point.  People will come to ask me questions before they go to Brad because I've had the most experience and I'm the most familiar with the majority of the code used in GC2, but I'll also consult with the other developers when I'm trying to figure out the best way to do something.  We try to hire people who work well independantly and in a team, and who don't need to be micromanaged. 

So, is there a "full" article to be had somewhere or is this all there is?

Nope.  We talked about a lot more stuff than is actually in the article, and she wrote down a lot of stuff that didn't make it in to the article, so it ended up being more of a feel good article than one talking about getting women more involved in math and science and stuff that I thought that she would write about. 

 

We talked about a lot more stuff than is actually in the article, and she wrote down a lot of stuff that didn't make it in to the article, so it ended up being more of a feel good article than one talking about getting women more involved in math and science and stuff that I thought that she would write about.

I have four daughters and would love sometime to get the whole picture.

Thanks for being the anti-Barbie ("Math is hard") role model.

I wish physicians got as much fan mail and appreciation about the job they do as game developers get, male, female or alien. Game developers seem to have aquired some sort of quasi-celebrity status in the eyes of adoring fans because they provided a product that keeps them entertained for long periods of time, not becasue they make a significant difference to society. There a splash of cold water to put things in perspective.

Medicine is still gender-biased (for example, most drugs don't receive equal testing for women before hitting the market), so doctors of any sex are actually perpetuating social inequality.

Also, you're on a video game site. If you wanted to see people admiring poltiical activists or doctors, spend more time on sites dedicated to those topics. I could easily come on here and pontificate on the significant intellectual contriibutions of Patricia Collins or cultural contributions of Kathy Acker, two women I deeply admire -- but I don't imagine the other readers here would get much out of it. If you're in a place dedicated to games, you're going to find people who admire those who design games.

That said, congratulations Cari - someone earlier suggested it should be for making a good game, not for being a woman, becasue that would be superficial. i don't think it's superificial to congradulate you for being a strong and liberated woman. So you get congrats on two points.

I agree though, it did read like a "feel good" piece.

Great game, great job!
i don't care if its build by a male or female, i just want to play great games.
Pink barbie stuff?? mattel? the evil Overlord Ken strikes again? (hahaha, yep great games have humor too.)
barbie versus the purple furry whoozies... using soft, nice and cute fluffy rockets to kill the enemy. errrm...
ok. maybe a good idea not to put that into the game.

great job on the game AND the update!
sorry ... no time to chitchat more, need to play again !

Cheers Cari ! For your achievements and hard work. You deserve recognition.

I am not a feminist nor anti-feminist, my philosophy is equality. Nowadays, females are doing things that used to be males only or what not. I totally support the best person for the job should have the job.

Oh come on i think your just arguing for the sake of it.

No I was undermining the foundation of your blanket statement (go ahead, I dare you to brag about how Brits spell that phrase). Besides, you're the one who used this forum dedicated to congradulating Cari to soapbox your philia for physicians in the first place. This ain't Trafalgar Square, so who's arguing for what sake?

Getting back to your point, which is that physicians don't get recognition... if you're a doctor and basing that assertion on personal experience, you should move. After my mom's surgery a couple years ago, I sent her sugeon and GP both flowers and hand-written letters of thanks. I know I do a little more than most people, and I know there are some real jerks out there. But if you don't get a thank you at least here an there, then there's got to be something seriously wrong with wherever it is you practice. Try working customer service if you want to know what a thankless job is like. And if you really, as you say, only care about the kinds of recognition accomplished women (or people in general) are getting, and for what accomplishments, in other words if you care about cultural priorities, there are more constructive ways to go about raising awareness. You could have said something like, "I thnk what you're doing is great, Cari. I'm always encouraged when I see an accomplished woman in the public eye. For anyone else who saw that was as inspired as I was, I thought you might be interested in this other website about empowered female role models..."

Yes, it's cheesey. But if you really care that much about changing others' values, it's the only way to go about it in an environment like this. I'm not even sure I understand the basis of your perception that people care more about game programmers than tending the sickly. I mean, inuition tells me I'd probably agree with you if I sat down to "analyse" it for myself. But the bottom line is this. Doctors do receive plenty of recognition, and it's based on their title, not idiosynratic acocmplishments as are celebrities. If you're fairly young and attractive and tell people in a night club that you're a doctor, do you think people won't fall over you?

Finally, Mr. Daniel Francis, I have to thank you for pointing out the obvious. i've never seen a clearer case of "insert foot in mouth here".

Hi Cari. I've been programming for 20+ years (not games though), and I have to tell you I am truly impressed with the depth, usability, robustness, humor and outright fun of GC2, never mind the "moddability". Great job and great game, Cari. Now I have something inspiring to share with my 9 yr. old daughter when she asks "Dad, are you playing THAT game again?".