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Population and Industrial Capacity

April 24, 2006 8:26:39 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I posted something in another thread thinking it was true and a few told me it was BS. I was wondering about the real story. I said:

Increasing population has benefits like increased industrial capacity, increased economy and increased research (or something near to that)

and they said:

population doesn't do a thing to industrial capacity or research (or something to that effect)

So, I'm wondering what's true. The reason I said population affects industry is because when I have a planet that I'm building and filling troop transports from I notice that the ship build times increase as I depopulate the planet (ie send people away on the transports). Wouldn't this indicate decreased industry?

I never checked the numbers, I was just going on my assumption. So what's correct?

Thanks
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Reply #1 April 24, 2006 8:28:06 AM
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Reply #2 April 24, 2006 8:34:57 AM
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Population of an industrial or a research planet shouldnt matter in my experience, only really applying to a honeypot planet. One devoted to providing cash. So on any planet the population only effects that planets income, the growth rate of the population along with other factors, it also effects morale and as a defence against planetary invasion.
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Reply #3 April 24, 2006 9:08:38 AM
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Hi, I am Edna Kolanco from Portugal! (I love to say that!)

Think of Industrial Capacity and Research as having High Level factories and research labs that employ the most specialized personnel.
Does not matter if you have 1 billion or 10 billions colonists, only a small team of VIP technicians and cientists will work on these factories. Because of this, population will not affect the output of these facilities.
However, to maintain these buildings operating, It is required a large sum of money both to pay those high level personnel and to provide them appropriate equipment. So you got to have a strong economy to sustain empire wide operations running smooth.
In your case of increasing production by depopulating a planet, I suppose that was some kind of collateral effect.
As population grows, they will become unhappy and if hapiness levels fall too low you it may affect production and research as well.
In that case, if you depopulate the excess people, then unhapiness will cease and production levels will go back to normal leaving a sense of being increased.

Hope this help do clarify...

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Reply #4 April 24, 2006 9:11:59 AM
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Putting simply,

Increasing population DO increase economy and help to pay the production and research bills.
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Reply #5 April 24, 2006 9:32:42 AM
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In your case of increasing production by depopulating a planet, I suppose that was some kind of collateral effect.
As population grows, they will become unhappy and if hapiness levels fall too low you it may affect production and research as well.


you got it backwards. Depopulating the planet increases my ship build times which indicated decreased industrial capacity to me. It wasn't a lot, it went from a transport taking 5 weeks to build at 20bil population to taking 8 weeks to build at 5bil population.

I believe you that the population doesn't affect industrial capacity, I'm just wondering what the explanation is.
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Reply #6 April 24, 2006 9:53:30 AM
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I think Edna's second - clarifying post - is the explanation you're looking for. The drop in pop = drop in $$, which means your factories are underfunded, which leads to longer build times.

I guess unlike moo and some other games, GC2 doesn't have inherent industrial output from pop.
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Reply #7 April 24, 2006 10:16:54 AM
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I think Edna's second - clarifying post - is the explanation you're looking for. The drop in pop = drop in $$, which means your factories are underfunded, which leads to longer build times.


However... this may not be case, because if the economy in a planet decreases, the factory is not supposed to change output, because it is funded by the global empire funds and not planet's.

I didn't understood at first what fiesta stated. Now I really don't see a reason for a decrease in population to affect the build times. I'm trying to remember if a situation like this happened to me and actually It didn't.

Are you sure you haven't by the way, changed the global funding sliders, the planetary focus or maybe happened an event that caused the change in the global production? If you are, them I am really lost!


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Reply #8 April 24, 2006 11:29:37 AM
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You can deficit spend, so the amount of money you bring in doesn't matter unless it puts you under -500BC.
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