I don't think it's gonna happen. I mean, what do you want, turn-based combat? YECHHHHH!

I like it the way it is.

Kinda defeat some of the purpose of ship weapons/defense research, doesn't it? Theres enough tactics in the game already.

Well, I think you may need to find another game to satisfy that need to control your ships in battle. I think most folks like this the way it is.

if u want to control good looking ships just get homeworld 2 u cant design ur own ships but it looks like what ur looking for

I wasn't going to buy GalCiv2 either for the same reason, since Space Empires V will have tactical combat. But I read that the two games have different gameplay so I thought what the heck, I'll buy them both

And I think that the ROI for tactical battle will be much more smaller than the ROI for implementing a full multiplayer aspect.

Frankly, no, I don’t think so. We’re talking about a TBS game here. You know, the kind of game that most of the time takes huge amounts of time to complete a single map…
I fear that only a very small group of hardcore gamers (Mostly unemployed youghts without any family and/or social life. Now don’t get me wrong. I was one of them ) will have sufficient time to play decent multiplayer games on the same scale most people enjoy their games right now (long campaigns on huge-ish maps).
I rather think that the number of people who will actually make use of an even poorly implemented tactical combat would vastly exceed the number of people who are able to play multi-hour-multi-player games.

So I don't really think that adding a tactical battle on GC2 will increase the fun factor for lots of people

Well, MOO2 and other similar games (here we go again) prove you wrong
That and the fact that, like you said yourself: "this subject has already beaten to death."

All the same I fear (regretfully) that Stardock won't include tactical combat until hell freezes over.... or possibly until GC3.

make use of an even poorly implemented tactical combat

????? Are you asking for a dumbed down AI?

Well, MOO2 and other similar games (here we go again) prove you wrong

If you think so. I guess it depends about what people consider things to be fun. And for the record, I have played MOO, MOM, MOO2, HOMM 2,3,4, Disciples II. And I find it boring to be forced to play tactical battles due to a bad tactical AI that can't handle the specificities of my armies. Sure, some battles are very rewarding. But that isn't the majority of the battles you must handle to ensure a correct outcome for your armies.

Frankly, no, I don’t think so. We’re talking about a TBS game here. You know, the kind of game that most of the time takes huge amounts of time to complete a single map…

Well, I think that there are more people on this forum that are requesting multiplayer support than tactical battle, but I could be wrong.

????? Are you asking for a dumbed down AI?

No, not really. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Still struggling with the English I guess

What I was trying to say is that EVEN poorly implemented tactical combat (like MOO2 if you want) would please a lot of people. As long as there’s a choice whether to do the battles yourself or hand them over to the AI.

That doesn’t mean I want it to be poorly implemented. And knowing Stardock, they won’t release anything as long as they can’t do it top-notch.

As a matter of fact I believe that’s the real reason why they won’t include TC. They can’t!
And that’s not meant as unjustified criticism. I’m not a programmer, but even if I were I probably wouldn’t have a clue either about how to do it properly.

OK, but there is another point in this topic: Whether I have tactical combat or not, I want to see my (maybe perfectly designed!) ships
- moving
- fighting
- and shooting
in a way that really looks cool.

In my opinion that is even more important than a tactical combat. And of course somewhere has to be a button, where I can turn on and off this feature.

We're not against tactical combat on principle.  It's just that to do it well would require immense amounts of effort to make sure the computer AI did it well.

MOO2 had tactical combat but there was very little computer AI behind it. A decent player could win a battle that was ridiculously lopsided. As a result, many players felt they had to micro manage every significant battle which took away the "fun" from the rest of the game.

There won't be tactical battle in GalCiv II but in some future sequel it's something we would look at if there's time.

Does the combat viewer correspond to your needs?

Does the combat viewer correspond to your needs?

Uh ... the ... yes, umh ... no ... err ... Fact is, I have to check out.


Sorry for double post.

The combat viewer needs improvment, to me it just loosk liek the ships arnt even flying but floating and bouncing off the edge of the screen.

There is a button that both side must be fleets, otherwise you dont have fleet battles and you have to choose full battles on length (or something like that).