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March 21, 2006 12:37:07 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
i have a problem like all the rest ,,,GC2 keeps on freezing and taking the whole pc with it ,, a total lock out of all systems , even ctrl alt del wont work or alt f4 either ,, the only way to get my pc back is to reboot via the restart button,,this is a great game ( civ fan here ) with huge potential in it BUT all these crashes ( 4 in 1 hour at one point ) are just driving me around the bend , the last crash i had just clicked on new game and it went down ... my system is fully up to date with drivers and os ,as is the game ( ver 10x2 ) so here is a copy off the error file .. see if any one can make any sense of it , also that little prog "smart exception " could not load any error files (.cra,.dmp,.err , etc)

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Debug Message: Version v1.0X.2 last updated on: Tue Mar 7 15:02:59 2006
Debug Message: Could not find a TGN Serial No.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 3/21/2006, 16:25:34
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: HOME
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INC.
System Model: MS-6728
BIOS: Version 1.00
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Physical Memory: 896MB RAM
Page File: 261MB used, 9777MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce FX 5200
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0322&SUBSYS_91101462&REV_A1
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8421
Driver Date: 3/9/2006 15:29:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: C-Media Wave Device
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_011113F6&REV_10
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: cmaudio.sys
Provider: C-Media
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0643
Driver Date: 11/18/2002 15:51:40
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (sw vp): NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 75
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 369e99
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\*.StarSystems
*DEBUG ERROR: ***Unable to find required tech ImpossibleTech for PirateShip. ***
*DEBUG ERROR: ***Unable to find required tech ImpossibleTech for Starbase. ***
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\Dread Lords Campaign\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\Logos\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\Metaverse\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\Mods\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\Portraits\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\ships\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\temp\*.sav
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Loading Custom Map
Debug Message: Loading Data Defs
Debug Message: Data Defs block size: 1464982
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Loading TechDefs
Debug Message: Max num techs: 248
Debug Message: Loading ImprovementDB
Debug Message: Loading Component Defs
Debug Message: Loading ShipTypes
Debug Message: Loading ShipConfigs
Debug Message: Loading AnomalyTypes
Debug Message: Loading RandomEvents
Debug Message: Loading UPIssues
Debug Message: Loading ResourceTypes
Debug Message: Loading InvasionTactics
Debug Message: Loading SBmodules
Debug Message: Loading PoliticalParties
Debug Message: Loading Planet Types
Debug Message: Loading Star Types
Debug Message: Loading Game
Debug Message: Loading Galaxy
Debug Message: Loading FOW Map
Debug Message: Loading ZOC Map
Debug Message: Loading Planets
Debug Message: Loading Stars
Debug Message: Loading Anomalies
Debug Message: Loading Resources
Debug Message: Loading Civs
Debug Message: Loading Colonies
Debug Message: Loading RallyPoints
Debug Message: Loading Ships
Debug Message: Loading Fleets
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Can't find ship type Fleet in definitions
Debug Message: Loading Influence
Debug Message: Loading ENDGALAXYDATA
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: UIBeginGame called with g_ulLocalPlayerID = 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 81. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 96. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 97. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Destroying ship Constructor M6-8 7150. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M4-1 1864. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Heavy Fighter M2-11 827. Orbiting: 1
Debug Message: Was Orbiting: Iconia
Debug Message: Destroying ship Constructor M3-3 1973. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 98. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Deleting previous save game.
Debug Message: About to auto save.
Debug Message: Save Game: About to save
Debug Message: Saving game C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\AutoSave.sav
Debug Message: Num Sectors Across: 18
Debug Message: Max num techs: 248
Debug Message: Total tech data size: 147504 Max tech size: 1891
Debug Message: Total improvement db size: 62512
Debug Message: Component defs data size: 267105
Debug Message: Total ship class data size: 315542 Max ship class data size: 1096
Debug Message: Total Ship config data size: 76297 Max ship config data size: 8011
Debug Message: Total anomaly types data: 17300, Max anomaly type size: 692
Debug Message: Total random event data size: 31907 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 236940 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
Debug Message: Total invasion tatic data size: 2790 Max invasion tactic data size: 476
Debug Message: Total starbase module data size: 318240 Max starbase module size: 3536
Debug Message: Total political party data size: 13576 Max political party size: 1697
Debug Message: Total planet types data size: 0 Max planet type size: 0
Debug Message: Total star type data size: 6896 Max star type size: 862
Debug Message: Game Object data: 16
Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14340
Debug Message: FOW data: 414008
Debug Message: ZOC data: 2660
Debug Message: Total Planet data size: 4225523 Max Planet data size: 7812
Debug Message: Total Star data size: 120840 Max Star data size: 424
Debug Message: Total Anomaly data size: 0 Max Anomaly data size: 0
Debug Message: Total Space resource data size: 8758 Max space resource data size: 302
Debug Message: Total Civilization data size: 1123537 Max Civ data size: 112033
Debug Message: Total Colony data size: 41790 Max colony data size: 270
Debug Message: Total Rally point data size: 1788 Max Rallypoint data size: 298
Debug Message: Total Ship data size: 709744 Max Ship Data size: 1496
Debug Message: Total Fleet data size: 208824 Max Fleet Data size: 14764
Debug Message: Save game finished.
Debug Message: Finished auto save.
Debug Message: Destroying ship Constructor 6240. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: StackedShipsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Stacked_Logistics_Value
Debug Message: StackedShipsWnd: Cannot find OBJID stacked_Fleet_More_Button
Debug Message: Destroying ship Terran Fleet 102. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 108. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 109. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: First contact: Thuban V at position 3650.000000,18350.000000 rotation 0.000000
Debug Message: First contact: Thuban V at position 3650.000000,18350.000000 rotation 0.000000
Debug Message: First contact: Thuban V at position 3650.000000,18350.000000 rotation 0.000000
Debug Message: I-League (22): Researching: Laser IV
Debug Message: Destroying ship Constructor M6-5 5371. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Destroying ship Freighter M3-3 1499. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Freighter M3-3 1085. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Deleting previous save game.
Debug Message: About to auto save.
Debug Message: Save Game: About to save
Debug Message: Saving game C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\AutoSave.sav
Debug Message: Num Sectors Across: 18
Debug Message: Max num techs: 248
Debug Message: Total tech data size: 147504 Max tech size: 1891
Debug Message: Total improvement db size: 62512
Debug Message: Component defs data size: 267105
Debug Message: Total ship class data size: 315542 Max ship class data size: 1096
Debug Message: Total Ship config data size: 76297 Max ship config data size: 8011
Debug Message: Total anomaly types data: 17300, Max anomaly type size: 692
Debug Message: Total random event data size: 31907 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 236940 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
Debug Message: Total invasion tatic data size: 2790 Max invasion tactic data size: 476
Debug Message: Total starbase module data size: 318240 Max starbase module size: 3536
Debug Message: Total political party data size: 13576 Max political party size: 1697
Debug Message: Total planet types data size: 0 Max planet type size: 0
Debug Message: Total star type data size: 6896 Max star type size: 862
Debug Message: Game Object data: 16
Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14340
Debug Message: FOW data: 417656
Debug Message: ZOC data: 2660
Debug Message: Total Planet data size: 4225699 Max Planet data size: 7812
Debug Message: Total Star data size: 120840 Max Star data size: 424
Debug Message: Total Anomaly data size: 0 Max Anomaly data size: 0
Debug Message: Total Space resource data size: 8758 Max space resource data size: 302
Debug Message: Total Civilization data size: 1120735 Max Civ data size: 111231
Debug Message: Total Colony data size: 41790 Max colony data size: 270
Debug Message: Total Rally point data size: 1788 Max Rallypoint data size: 298
Debug Message: Total Ship data size: 720524 Max Ship Data size: 1496
Debug Message: Total Fleet data size: 205864 Max Fleet Data size: 14764
Debug Message: Save game finished.
Debug Message: Finished auto save.
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: StarportWnd: Cannot find OBJID StarPort_Planet_Logo_Image
Debug Message: Destroying ship Fleet 110. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M3-3 1673. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Constructor M6-9 8057. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: Begin
Debug Message: Random Event: EVENT_TYPE_ENDTURN
Debug Message: Random Event: Checking for Rebels
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Deleting previous save game.
Debug Message: About to auto save.
Debug Message: Save Game: About to save
Debug Message: Saving game C:\Documents and Settings\liam\My Documents\My Games\GalCiv2\AutoSave.sav
Debug Message: Num Sectors Across: 18
Debug Message: Max num techs: 248
Debug Message: Total tech data size: 147504 Max tech size: 1891
Debug Message: Total improvement db size: 62512
Debug Message: Component defs data size: 267105
Debug Message: Total ship class data size: 315542 Max ship class data size: 1096
Debug Message: Total Ship config data size: 76297 Max ship config data size: 8011
Debug Message: Total anomaly types data: 17300, Max anomaly type size: 692
Debug Message: Total random event data size: 31907 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 236940 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
Debug Message: Total invasion tatic data size: 2790 Max invasion tactic data size: 476
Debug Message: Total starbase module data size: 318240 Max starbase module size: 3536
Debug Message: Total political party data size: 13576 Max political party size: 1697
Debug Message: Total planet types data size: 0 Max planet type size: 0
Debug Message: Total star type data size: 6896 Max star type size: 862
Debug Message: Game Object data: 16
Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14340
Debug Message: FOW data: 420632
Debug Message: ZOC data: 2660
Debug Message: Total Planet data size: 4225583 Max Planet data size: 7812
Debug Message: Total Star data size: 120840 Max Star data size: 424
Debug Message: Total Anomaly data size: 0 Max Anomaly data size: 0
Debug Message: Total Space resource data size: 8758 Max space resource data size: 302
Debug Message: Total Civilization data size: 1130103 Max Civ data size: 119591
Debug Message: Total Colony data size: 41790 Max colony data size: 270
Debug Message: Total Rally point data size: 1788 Max Rallypoint data size: 298
Debug Message: Total Ship data size: 729344 Max Ship Data size: 1496
Debug Message: Total Fleet data size: 211772 Max Fleet Data size: 14764
Debug Message: Save game finished.
Debug Message: Finished auto save.


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can someone in game design please please try to sort this out as i am seriously thinking of putting this game on a high shelf and leaving it there ,,, it's a great game with a lot going for it but it has a whole lot of problems that are doing it in .also the game is also fully up to date (ver 10x2)

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Reply #1 March 21, 2006 1:03:23 PM
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OK - 3 obvious things from the debug file:

1. your sound card drivers are woefully old (you could also try disabling hardware acceleration for the sound card through dxdiag)
2. your pagefile is way too big for the amount of physical RAM installed
3. you're running the game at a resolution higher than your normal desktop resolution - change one of them so that they match

Other things to try include turning off anti-aliasing and lowering other high intensity graphics settings (the FX5200 is a bit long in the tooth now). Also use the nvidia dialogues to check GPU temperature after a crash - could well be overheating if everything's turned on.
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Reply #2 March 21, 2006 1:18:27 PM
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the sound card drivers are as up to date as can get ,, the page file size was a test to see if it would help in any way (didnt) ,same with the screen res,, i will check the graphic card out , getting a new one is out for the moment , need to save up for it ..moneys tight ,, tanks for the input
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Reply #3 March 21, 2006 1:19:15 PM
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I had severe problems with the 5200 locking up under stress in several games. I finally had to mount a fan to the heat sink and slightly underclock the card. I moved it to a lower end pc after I got a 7800, and it has had no problems since. I dont suggest you mess with the clock settings, but I would suggest you take a look at the fan (if it has one, if not, consider getting one), and check the temperature.
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Reply #4 March 21, 2006 1:23:16 PM
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just to make sure this gets read, I'll post again.

the card cools down FAST, it will go from a very high 125c, down to normal in the time it takes your pc to lockup and reboot, yet it is overheating, just the heatsink does a good job once the job is manageable. that is where the underclocking and fan come in. you can get an 80mm for 5 bucks at many computer shops, and it doesnt even have to be 'on' the card, you can just fishing line it to the card, just have it blow down on the card, and the fan and heatsink will do the rest. becareful what you poke in there ^^
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Reply #5 March 21, 2006 10:08:20 PM
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Graphics card overheat apparently is a problem for this game. I've had the whole crashing thing going for me too ever since I installed it. At my wits end today, I took my tower fan from my room and had it blow into my case. Apparently, that was enough to keep it working. Game ran for over two hours uninterrupted! Needless to say, I was happy.
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Reply #6 March 24, 2006 9:10:39 PM
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my graphics card has a heat sink but i have a blower fan sitting right ontop of the sink pulling air over it and blowing it out the back ,,, i have 6 other fans all temp regulated ( 3 sucking in & 3 blowing out) not counting the psu's 3 plus the cpu & nb fans ,, my system always stays nice and cool ,, it can get a little load but i dont mind that ,, ,,, i have a post releating to starforce you might want to look at ,, its called possible cause ,it could be interesting,.
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