For a casual every drink i like Strongbow original, yea i know it's not a beer but it is damn nice though.

If i want to have a drink for the taste, then it's scotch. Nothing except a nice black Johnie Walker or if i can afford it, a nice Chivas Regal...mmmmmmm.

If i intend on getting hammered. Then it's vodka, either flavored or straight, as long as it's a nice import. Australian vodka's are absolute shite!

As for actual beers, from the Australian ones, Cascade Premium and Crown Lager. Of the imported ones, Samuel Adams, when i can get it. I like Corona and a Bud. I'm not too fussed on the Euro beers...

I like parties, but can do without alcohol in most cases, so you can count on me if you need a designated driver.

If I take a drink though, it means I'm going to stay wherever I am for a while, so be prepared to put up with me. I don't like getting drunk, so It's usually one drink or a max of two when I do.

My wife likes Strongbow, but only has it once in a great while. She'll usually just have a few sips of whatever I'm having. Between the two of us, we can make a single drink last an hour.

I like Guinness and prefer Extra Stout. It's not easy to find in Texas, but we have loads of Guinness Draught here. It's an adequate substitution in some cases.

For whiskey, I like Jim Beam Rye. Crown Royal comes in a distant second and then Johnny Walker Scotch (Red or Black. My palate isn't that refined.)

I've heard that you go with white wine for fish and chicken and red wine for red meat. I've found (and had some waiters/waitresses agree) that it's better to just order whatever wine you like with whatever meal you're getting. That means a Shiraz, Cabernet or Merlot on those occasions when I order wine.

i really, really hope Sally is a significant human other, and not the family pet   



oh, i think you're absolutely correct. i usually opt for wine in occassions like those you mentioned. i find i enjoy my sugary-est drinks most laying about on a hot sunny afternoon.

[starts tossing quotes around] "The real test of an individual's character is not who their friends are, but how they treat someone who can do nothing for them" - "Predictability is a virtue of Slaves, not free men" -

and one of my favs, by Epictetus: "If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone."

Yea, it was the family pet. Beauty is fleeting, and if you miss it, you have to make do with whatever you get. I chose the family pet, you got me.   

haha, I'm glad you and I are on the same page Dystopic!

BTW, what sort of wines do you all dig? I prefer the sweeter red wines in general (dry red really isn't my friend, lol), but I've never latched onto a particular brand. Never really tried a white wine, might have to experiment with after a few paychecks.

That quote dousn't seem to have much purpose? From a logical point of view, any sentient being could be unpredictable regardless of being a slave or whatever.

Predictability mainly depends on how well you know them not who they are! One example being your parents.... I think most of us when growing up could at some stage be capable of predicting our parents actions so precisely that they may as well be mindless drones! lol,

I'm not one to drink much, but I have a few favorites:

Beers: Killians, the Sam Adams line, and this Belgian-style ale called "Blue Moon"

Cidar: I am quite fond of this Ace Pear Cidar, though it is best from tap.

For the harder stuff, I tend to mix with things. e.g. Coke, OJ, ice.

I am a bit partial to rum, being half Puerto Rican. My favorite is Captian Morgan's, though I'll gladly take a bottle of the expensive stuff as a gift.

For taquila, I have only had Cuervo, which also happens to be good with Coke.

Whisky, I like Jack Daniels and Crown... good with Coke. I would love to try some good Scotish stuff. This reminds me, must remember to attend whiskey tasting at next Scotish games.

For wines, I prefer Lambruscos and Sangrias. My favorite type, is from the San Sebastian Winery in St Augustine, FL.

Subjective anal-y-sis? Hmmm. I suppose.

How's your speech for Saint Peter coming? I hope you know that he can just snap his fingers and take away the effects of alcohol. He's had a lot of practice.

I have always wondered what it would be like to do anything drunk.

Guess that wisdom(or idiocy) will come with age...

Not sure if I'm a qualified drinker anymore, the ever-worsening hangovers and family life has been toning down my drinking habits considerably... but anyway, I don't mind a cool bottle of beer now and then

I live in Finland, so I've mostly consumed finnish lagers, for the sole reason they're the most affordable here... nothing much to say on them, not exceptional, not bad, they'll make you drunk eventually.

Don't really have a wide range of experience on foreign import beers, but my absolute favorite beer has been Pilsner Urquell from Czech Republic. It has a distinctive taste, don't know how to describe it english really, you guys&gals try it out! Czech beers in general are good, at least for my taste.

Finnish coctails = mix Koskenkorva Vodka 50/50 with whatever, and there ya go, nothing much to tell on the coctail frontier either

Dystopic asked about jagermeister... I have fun tip for that drink which occured to me in Prague while I was obviously under heavy influence of excessive amount of Czech beer and remnants of last nights sips of absinthe: I woke up, noticed I had bought a bottle of Jagermeister, but didn't really want to start sipping it raw from the bottle... but I had to even up the hangover a bit. Well, I only had berry-flavoured yogurt, so I decided to add the jagermeister to the yogurt: and voilá! It was damn good!

Well, to be honest, I've tried to serve the "Jageryogurt" as a dessert for some of my friends, they didn't appreciate the taste as much as I did on that hangovery morning in Prague... guess it was the absinthe in my head that deluded me

About absinthe, I really recommend to try it out (not in too big doses, and not if you're under 18! ) as it really does some strange tricks to your mind & body, quite unlike any other alcohol drinks. At least that's the experience me and people I know have had. I think the thujone is to blame for those effects...

Noticed from the wiki that US Customs laws prohibit the importation of absinthe.. and the absinthes sold in US don't contain thujon.

Good reason to travel to Europe for the US folk!

that's hilarious. i've noticed certain diners produce food that's only edible when drunk or hungover, but that's just hilarious.



Pilsner Urquell is one of my favorite beers. i'm not sure how to describe it in English either, and I'm a native speaker. it's definately light. crisp? yeah, but it's still got a hearty and full taste. it's also the traditional recipie that eventually became Budweiser in the U.S.

Baaaaaaaaa!

Oh, there's a mental picture....

i think it depends on the wine and the food. when you pair the right wine with the right foods, they enhance each other's flavor exponentially. however it's not easy to know what could go best with what unless you drink a lot of wine, and that gets expensive. i think both your statements are true in general; whites generally pair better with lighter meals (usually fish, chicken, turkey and eggs), and reds with heavier meals (beef, pork). but there are definately exceptions there; for example i'd serve a red with jerked chicken or paella (probably a port and a sangria respectively), but might pick a dry white with shabu-shabu (even though sake would be my first choice) or a riesling with a roast beef sandwich. of course, if you're eating a sandwich, beer might be a better match.

the most important thing is to avoid poor matches, and any match is a poor one if you don't like the wine to begin with, so unless you're the advernturous type it's good to get what you know you like.

i think the best advice i've heard was, "if it grows together, it goes together." when i follow that guideline, it seems to work really well.

na i think it's boredom and stress.

I could see that, but boredom hasnt yet struck me as an icentive to drink.

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Yeah, I still don't know how the idea to mix jager with yogurt popped into my mind... but I don't regret it! I still think it's a great mix, but the yogurt plays a big role in the taste though. I think the original was raspberry and some other berry mixed, with a very strong sweet flavour... I've never managed to find a yogurt that'd equal the original, to my disappointment

Good thing in my special yogurt-mix is that while you grab spoonfuls of jageryogurt, you can add more jagermeister to it all the time, the taste hardly changes! On the other hand, that might be caused by the alcohol dumbing your senses...



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It certainly has a special odor in it too, a herb-like smell that my wife registers immediately I pop a bottle ("Ahha, drinking beer again, are you!"). I'd even say it resembles the smell of the marijuana plant a bit! But I think the origin of the peculiar taste and smell is the fact that Urquell is very strongly hopped.

And yeah, it's a very traditional beer, I think Pilsner Urquell stands for "The Original Pilsner", pilsner being a sub-type of lager I think?

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I agree with Dystopic (damn hard to disagree with him on any subject really!). I've noticed if I'm eating in a decent enough restaurant, the wine recommendations for meals are really carefully picked to suit with the meals in the menu. In the end, of course, this all boils down to the expertise of the waiter who recommends a wine or whoever compiled the menu with wine recommendations. "Wrong" wine can totally ruin a meal, and a "right" wine, as Dystopic said, really enhances the experience you get out of your meal!

In my opinion, if you just pick the wine you're comfortable with with every food, you're not using wines to their fullest potential

Well, after waking up at 4 this morning, I dont ever want to drink again and gawd I have to go to work          

Personally, I´m also a member of the dont like beer but do drink it club too.

I´m quietly enjoying a bottle of Westons Strong Organic Cider at the moment, which is my drink of choice (not necesarily Westons, I like K when I can find it etc), but I also have a couple of 12 packs of local cheap lager in the fridge for when the cider runs out! I´ve got 5 bottles of cider, so by the end of those (it´s 6.5% ABV) I doubt I´ll be able to taste whatever I drink!    Or feel much of anything for that matter!

yes, pilsner is a type of lager (and a type of glass). i think you might be right about the hops, however i think it's also a result of something more regional. i don't notice the same odor coming from an IPA, which has a lot of hops. but it notice that cannabis odor most strongly with Belgian-style beers (especially double and triple fermented lambics).



well thank you!




speaking of Lambics, for those of you who've mentioned liking hard ciders, i'd recommend trying a fruit Lambic if you can find one.

eh? I dunno, personally i do not keep tabs on St Peters post scripture activities?

he spends most of his time trying to pick up chicks in purgatory.

jag-gurt shots all around!

as for scotch i like chivas regal "royal salute" i like strait or with water unfortuantely for me it is too expensive so i dont drink scotch any more.as for whiskey/bourbon i like makers mark with water /7 up/or even ginger ale---------=-------mixed drinks i like greyhounds-grapefruit juice and vodka not picky about the vodka----if i am in the us virgin islands then ill have a bushwacker but do not remember what goers in them but highly recommend if you are there..rum i actually like the cheap cruzan rum mixed with cola or used for the specialty drinks daiquires,smoothies etc---gin im not really picky either like it with 7 up or ginger ale-------------------------wine i like most red wines and comes down to what i can afford to drink-------- beer i prefer dark beers ie bock,porter,stout here where i live i drink polygamy porter an inexpensive porter easily available.i will drink some ales like truckee ale i'm older and wiser now so my alcohol consumption is way way down ,