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So I got banned from Eve.

So I got banned from Eve.

A lesson in irony...

I saw a link for a 21 day trial to Eve, and decided that was too good to pass up.  I've subbed to the game before a couple times, and although it got boring after a while, its still not bad to play for a month or two at a time.

Just in case anyone isn't familiar with Eve.  Its a ruthless sandbox space MMO, filled with piracy, player politics on a level you may not believe, espionage, treachery, deceit, profiteering, and any other despicable act a human being is capable of in a freeform MMO with player "owned" space and economy, as well as unconsentual PvP.


I'll breifly describe a few of the daily occurances in the game.  First up, Suicide Ganking.  You and some of your buddies equip "throw away" ships and blow some noob's brand new and expensive craft up, before the police can kill you.  Then we have the ever popular Baitcanning (or is it Canbaiting?).  Jettison some piece of expensive cargo into space, rename the container to "Free stuff!!" and wait in your battlship of death for some noob to grab it.  Soon as they do, you are allowed to blast them into dust.  Then there is the ever popular, Can Flipping.  Go around in your small and weak looking ship, stealing the cargo of noobs, hoping they in turn, will try to blast you into dust.  As soon as they do, you zip away back to a spacestation and hop into your battleship of death, return, and blast the noob into dust instead.  And lastly that I'll mention, is Gate Camping.  Certain star systems in the game are bottlenecks between "carebear" high security space, and open pvp, low security space.  Good luck getting into these systems though, as there are nearly always groups of players that do nothing but sit at these systems day in and day out, waiting for noobies to venture out.  As soon as their heads poke through, a cruise missile in the face is there to greet them.

So, holding people ransom for millions of dollars, threatening to blow up their ships/and or escape pods, tricking players into joining a corp (guild) that has had war declared on it by another corp, getting different characters into other corps for the sole purpose of blowing up your own fleet with smartbombs, and any other such act in Eve is perfectly acceptable, and is in fact, encouraged.  Its what makes Eve, Eve.  In fact the Dev's themselves have often gotten into the act.  There is a plethora of articles out there about how the CCP Dev's have "stirred the pot" of their own game. 


But... what you can't do in Eve, apparently, is say the F word, or call a girl fat.  Because in Eve, you know, that game I was just describing up there, the Dev's care about the sensitivity of their players.  Curse words and derogatory statements go against the spirit of an otherwise clean and friendly game. Some players feel that even though they can mute you in chat, the game would be much better off without someone saying adult words, or poking fun at others.  So, in order to protect all the innocent children that play Eve, certain players rallied together to petition me enough to get me permantly banned.  In game currency was even exchanged.  A certain "fat" girl paid handsomely to those who sent in petitions.  I found this out when I started a new trial account.  A couple of the people involved in the banning were so excited, they couldn't help but brag about it.  And again, that type of behavior is perfectly acceptable in Eve.


I actually wanted to continue to play the game, too.  I had planned on renewing my subscription as soon as the trial was over.  I'm basically waving my consumer dollars around in a sultry "take me now, im so hot" kind of way.  I've petitioned the GM's twice now (as many times as is allowed), and after 5 days, my petition status is still open.  It took less than 15 minutes to get banned, however.  So the message is clear.  They don't want me in Eve.  I guess my foul mouth and I are just too offensive for that upstanding and mature group of cheaters, pirates, market fixers, spies, liars, extortionists, backstabbers and egomaniacs.


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Reply #26 Top
That's just it. He didn't call anyone fat, nor did he use the F-word. I checked, double checked and triple checked. As for being a CEO in real life and can't stand up to people in real life, that's depending on point of view. There are a lot of times people can stand up to other people, but that could get you fired, lose a case, or a client; economically and pragmatically, sometimes it literally pays not to stand up to people, and if you make a million buck out of kissing ass...well...I'm not sure if I would do it but more power to you. As for Internet protection, we're all under its protection. And you're absolutely right, most companies are hypocritical (I still believe one out of a billion or trillion or double trillion in the world isn't :P)

So, yes, please, you just flat out accused him something of which he had not done (saying fat or fuck. He didn't even so much as say he says it).

ps. Now the OP did do such things, so accuse all you want (though I don't mind OP doing it either).
Reply #27 Top

Quoting Kastronida, reply 13


Since the OP seemed to have no read the EULA, how about we review it, shall we? *If this is not allowed by the Admins here, then feel free to remove this post*End User License Agreement:C. Compliance with Rules of Conduct You agree to observe and abide by the Rules of Conduct as may be amended by CCP from time to time. The current version of the Rules of Conduct may be viewed at http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/terms.asp, and are incorporated in the EULA by reference. >>>>You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) call a girl fat. A certain "fat" girlYou called a girl fat, which is violating the RoC, I certainly HOPE I don't need to point out what this falls under in this portion of the RoC...Also, you do realize that CCP monitors all public chats? Meaning they have a log of all that was discussed in there.Did you know that you also accepted this RoC when you signed up? Both for a TRIAL account and when you start up the cliant? If you didn't agree with the RoC, then you shouldn't have signed up.

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Obviously another fat girl.

 

Im no a stalker, just a shit talker.  And a poet and dont know it, apparently.

 

Lets see if I get banned from here now...

Reply #28 Top
Obviously another fat girl.



Im no a stalker, just a shit talker. And a poet and dont know it, apparently.



Lets see if I get banned from here now...
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No, you won't get banned from here.

You aren't a shit talker, you're just a sexist who thinks he can act like an asshole on the net and not get to face the consequences of it.

Posting about this on other forums and being proud of your little act doesn't make you a hero oppressed by political correctness.

It just makes you an ass, nothing more.
Reply #29 Top
You aren't a shit talker, you're just a sexist who thinks he can act like an asshole on the net and not get to face the consequences of it.

Posting about this on other forums and being proud of your little act doesn't make you a hero oppressed by political correctness.

It just makes you an ass, nothing more.
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QFT.
Reply #30 Top
People get banned for no reason, people even get banned because they're do-gooders. It's the way life is... one good turn deserves another right?
Reply #31 Top
Oh please,I haven't even begun to talk trash, nor have I lectured. If Sly can take his little break from reality because he doesn't have the guts to stand up to people in real life, that's cool. I want my break too.If he called a chick fat, that's certainly talking trash. If he used said fuck that's talking trash. And if he needs the internet to protect him, well he's the one who's dodging "boo."What companies aren't hypocritical?
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Awww..I bet you're a fat ugly chick. Stop bitching.
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Reply #32 Top
I actually just started playing EVE recently, and I like it a lot. It is extremely cutthroat, but if you remember that it's a game, then you don't bitch when you're destroyed. I've fallen into several traps, and you know what I say afterwards? Good job. Then I end up talking to the people who took me out.
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Yeah I lost a drake once to a guy and went on TS. Thankfully the guy was pretty nice and told me where I went wrong in my build and gave me a corp invite. Its good you are enjoying the game :). It is good in its own way if you can accept its in no way shape or form a long term PVE game. I can understand why the game has a following but I think I have went off MMOS now in general.
Reply #33 Top
I don't get it mate, i used to play Eve for about 4 years infact.

I don't understand how they banned you cbecause you used the F word? You must have spammed it continually for a month or something along those lines. Or something really serious because the most you get for swearing repeatdly and insulting someone is a 'Gag', which means you can't talk in local for a bit (or permenantley if your a repeat offender).

The rules may have changed recently, but if that isn't the case i can only assume you've done more than just say 'Feck off ya wee C**T' in local to get banned. If this isn't the case then i apologise and sorry they banned you.
Reply #34 Top
Scott the last time I played which was only a few months back (I reactivated an old account) the way it worked was you couldnt cuss and swear in the newbie help channel, you know the one that gets moderated regulary(Actually you will 100% know about this channel but is for benefit of others reading :) )

As for swearing in local etc, I seen much swearing and crazy behaviour but just stayed out of it, but at least when I used to play they didnt bother about swearing. Im even thinking maybe if the swearing is racial in nature then perhaps they would ban but even at that I have seen corp sites with links on the official eve forums that are blatently based on some of the seedier real life events(Not going into what since dont want to bring that rubbish into this community) so if that doesnt get banned or even mod warnings Im surprised the would ban someone for swearing. I guess it all depends who handles the complaint? I dont know whats happened though to be honest? Im at a loss hehe
Reply #35 Top
You probably just got a few days ban. 3-4. It's what they hand out so it's a real joke. I never heard of any permanent bans, and why would they they want people to keep playing. Your just unlucky to have to someone report you bad mouthing them. I got bad mouthed lost of time but never reported i just don't core but that person did.
Reply #36 Top

Ah yeah, i guess if ur abusive in the newbie channel they might be some what less leanient, but yeah i think Eadtaes is right - perhaps it is just a tempoary ban.

 

Ultimatley eve rocks, but at the high end it fails because the game cannot support 800 people in one system blowing the crap out of each other, yet the end game is specifically designed for that.

It's a wonderful notion for a game and one day it may actually work, until then i'm gonna try my hand at other stuff.

Reply #37 Top
You probably just got a few days ban. 3-4. It's what they hand out so it's a real joke. I never heard of any permanent bans, and why would they they want people to keep playing.
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You ever heard of Kugutsumen?

Hint: he had something to do with a very famous dev incident.
Reply #38 Top


 
Obviously another fat girl.
 
Im no a stalker, just a shit talker.  And a poet and dont know it, apparently.
 
Lets see if I get banned from here now...
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Fat? Me? I'm male kid, and quite skinny for your information ;)

In fact, I've often been called a shrimp.

However, in all seriousness, your actions did break the rules I listed from the End User License Agreement you signed. You have ONLY yourself to blame.
Reply #39 Top

Quoting Kastronida, reply 38


 Obviously another fat girl. Im no a stalker, just a shit talker.  And a poet and dont know it, apparently. Lets see if I get banned from here now...Fat? Me? I'm male kid, and quite skinny for your information In fact, I've often been called a shrimp.However, in all seriousness, your actions did break the rules I listed from the End User License Agreement you signed. You have ONLY yourself to blame.

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So just a fingerpointer.  I love how you use the term "kid", as if it somehow gives you superiority.  I can play that game, too.

Only a sycophants would get a kick out of rubbing a EULA in someone's face, boy. 

 

And, yes, I'm obviously an asshole, a sexist, a bigot, or whatever else you want to call me.  I figured I'd fit right into Eve.  You know, the game where there are pirates, brothels, slaves, and whatever else is deemed "offensive".  Heck, in the beginner mission, the NPC's swear at you, and talk trash to you. 

Not trying to pass myself off as innocent by any means.  I'm definitely a button pushing trash talker.  But thats not any worse than these self righteous tattletales who get a big smile across their face by ruining anothers fun in n eir own way.

Reply #40 Top
Look, since there seems to be an apparent lack of maturity going on here right now (regardless of your chronological/intellectual age) let me just say something. First of all, I have been playing EVE for just about one year now and have thoroughly enjoyed my time there. I will also say that not once in my entire EVE career have I ever been victimized by any of these occurences nor do I know anyone that has. This is primarily because most of these traps are entirely avoidable if you have even the slightest bit of common sense and know-how, which even a noob can possess should they try. As for those that are not entirely avoidable, like gate camps for instance, they can be circumvented and I have done so on a myriad of occasions. As for more veteran players taking advantage of new players by destroying their new ships with other worthless ones, that is by no means a regular occurence in high security space, if only because most veteran players could care less and those that would try it often are unable to get the kill before being obliterated by Concord (police) which acts instantaneously. Besides, players can insure their ships so they don't lose as much money, which is what any intelligent person would do anyway.

As for your getting banned for what you deemed an unsuitable reason in lieu of other more supposedly "vile" practices, please allow me to inform you of a little fact of life. By downloading and playing the game you are in fact required to play by the rules outlined. If you don't like or find them unfair, you don't have to play the game, no one's forcing you. If you want to play the game but don't like the rules, well tough luck, suck it up or get out. Coincidentally, that's how the real world operates as well, who'd have thought?

In closing, please allow me to say that while internet forums are an excellent medium for channeling your frustration at life, please be considerate of other people who by virtue of not having lives (I jest of course) are forced into reading your misleading and misdirected tyraid.
Reply #41 Top

Quoting Zamiel7, reply 40


Look, since there seems to be an apparent lack of maturity going on here right now (regardless of your chronological/intellectual age) let me just say something. First of all, I have been playing EVE for just about one year now and have thoroughly enjoyed my time there. I will also say that not once in my entire EVE career have I ever been victimized by any of these occurences nor do I know anyone that has. This is primarily because most of these traps are entirely avoidable if you have even the slightest bit of common sense and know-how, which even a noob can possess should they try. As for those that are not entirely avoidable, like gate camps for instance, they can be circumvented and I have done so on a myriad of occasions. As for more veteran players taking advantage of new players by destroying their new ships with other worthless ones, that is by no means a regular occurence in high security space, if only because most veteran players could care less and those that would try it often are unable to get the kill before being obliterated by Concord (police) which acts instantaneously. Besides, players can insure their ships so they don't lose as much money, which is what any intelligent person would do anyway.As for your getting banned for what you deemed an unsuitable reason in lieu of other more supposedly "vile" practices, please allow me to inform you of a little fact of life. By downloading and playing the game you are in fact required to play by the rules outlined. If you don't like or find them unfair, you don't have to play the game, no one's forcing you. If you want to play the game but don't like the rules, well tough luck, suck it up or get out. Coincidentally, that's how the real world operates as well, who'd have thought?In closing, please allow me to say that while internet forums are an excellent medium for channeling your frustration at life, please be considerate of other people who by virtue of not having lives (I jest of course) are forced into reading your misleading and misdirected tyraid.

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Well, since you never saw it, guess it must not be true huh?  Lemme ask you something.  Have you ever seen the continent of Antarctica?  No?  Guess it doesn't exist then.  Logic is fun.


Your claims of "common sense" mean nothing in Eve.  I spend all my time in the game in the newbie channels and noobie area, and the same circumstances happen day in and day out, nonstop.  What you fail to see, with your one year old blinders on, is that your current position the game is overshadowing your own experience when you were new.  You are more than likely in low sec space the vast majority of the time.  I highly doubt that you came into the game with the foreknowledge of greifer tactics, insurance, and even how to fit your ship.  And trust me, I see (or saw) the affliction I coin "veteran's disease" every day.  You claim may be true, but it is most definitely an exception, and not the rule. 

In fact, I suspect you of being one of those people in Eve who tries to get new players into the game by painting the picture of Eve being such a warm and fuzzy game, then getting on TeamSpeak to call your buddies into Nalvula.  But... something like that would never happen in Eve, right?

I'm fully aware of the EULA and its implications.  I never said my banning was unsuitable, merely ironic.  You know, because everyone follows every rule in the EULA every day, even the Devs, right?

 

Reply #42 Top
Eve sounds fun, but is it only PVP?
Reply #43 Top
Eve sounds fun, but is it only PVP?
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No, but you can be attacked anywhere. There's a system in place that effectively outlines where PVP is open and allowed, and to what degree, but it's not perfect.

If you're careless you can be attacked anywhere. If you're careful, you're safe.

It is a lot of fun, but you have to realize that you're a noob, or you will die constantly.
Reply #44 Top
My god, what a kindergarten.

If someone gets you banned somewhere, either take it as a man, or fight back accordingly. Going to a totally unrelated third party forum to cry about how bad you've been treated just makes you look like a loser. Bah.
Reply #45 Top
Eve sounds fun, but is it only PVP?No, but you can be attacked anywhere. There's a system in place that effectively outlines where PVP is open and allowed, and to what degree, but it's not perfect.If you're careless you can be attacked anywhere. If you're careful, you're safe. It is a lot of fun, but you have to realize that you're a noob, or you will die constantly.
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So eve is basicly a extremely hard mmorpg.
Reply #46 Top
My god, what a kindergarten.If someone gets you banned somewhere, either take it as a man, or fight back accordingly. Going to a totally unrelated third party forum to cry about how bad you've been treated just makes you look like a loser. Bah.
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He did, and never got an answer. So like learn to read.
Reply #47 Top
He did, and never got an answer. So like learn to read.
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So you stop fighting too when your first bullet fails, and run to a totally unrelated group to cry about it?

Accept it, that guy isn't made for Eve. Running off crying and pointing fingers won't help you in the real world, and it will help you *much*, much less in Eve.
Reply #48 Top
no u
Reply #49 Top
WELL WELL WELL... LOL

mate get a grip its a game for a start, all be it a very deep game.

i have been playing eve for a long time and have seen and done things ingame that most eve players won't ever get to !

i live in 0.0 space and its all happening there, no concord to save you , im talking cap ships that will insta pop your best battle ship, titans that will DDD your whole fleet of 100 battleships and kill you all just like that then cyno out with a fat smile on his face while his gang loot whore your wrecks, im talking about knocking around with the biggest and baddest alliances in the game.

in real life if some one talks to you like that or attcks you in that manner then your not gonna stand for it..... simple !

EVE is much more than just a game ! its a reflection on real life set in space meny years from now. and if you can't take it then well... i don't need to say no more.

what i will say to all you guys out there that are allready or may be thinking of playing eve its a commitment and a very very complex and deep so called game like no other out there. well worth getting in to and tbh some may say you can learn alot from it about some aspects of real life .

as for the guy who started all this . . . mate get a grip and grow up , if you got a problem then take it to the eve forums , allso ask for a senoir gm to handel your case !!!

allso i know that or should i say im sure that the ccp gm's would not of just banned you just on the back of what some other people say! they have evey chat log/game log every bit of info they need at a click of a botton... so you must of said or done more than your telling us here and what ever that may have been if you got banned you were more than likely in the wrong... and if not then you have learned a lession, just be thankfull that you was a noob toon your self and not a vet eve player .

btw i agree with ZAMIEL7 ... comments above .

to sum up and end this : EVE IS U B E R ;P
Reply #50 Top
star I was going to post something in relation to the game since your curious but I dont want to start any grief so all I would say is try and find out from people who are playing in high sec because you are going to be doing that a while , month and months , also if you lose your ship you can lose millions on parts lost and if you forget to insure you can lose your ship, also if you forget to clone and have a skill thats taken you months or more then you lose that skill and have to reskill it.

Definatly get the trial and hopefully its one where you dont have to commit a credit card becuse eve you either love or hate. I actually believe it or not like the game in a way but what I dont like is the sheer lack of game content diversity while skilling which at the end of the day most of your time for a long long time is spent repeating the same missions over and over making money while you wait days , months and weeks per skill( in regards to learning skills , the most optimum route is to go all learning skills first so you save most time longterm, what this means if you wanted to go that route you would not have in game skills and not be really able to play the game for 4 months approx)

I dont rate eve as a bad game its just not my idea of fun even though I played it for a good while and like someone says you eventually get skills for low sec and find out the servers dont handle the fleet battles to well. I am not the best person to judge MMOS atm since I used to love them all, then its like I noticed this pattern in them all where it was all just about grinding on the pretence of good content only to find when you get there its really sub par, I think its good for companies bad for the consumer because all that money in fees goes in and very little content gets added(Glorified patches half the time - get an expansion maybe once per 3 years thats alot of money for an expansion even on an individual basis but at least eve gives expansions for free but its even crazier when you think most MMOS you have to pay for the expansion as well) if you consider the money invested through fees well I think its a bad deal and whether you like guild wars or not they have proved what I knew all along that if a MMO was succesful enough the sales in good content pays for everything.(sure GW is kinda shortlived but at least the way it works is : Company makes something, I research product, if product gets bad review I dont buy + have not wasted hundreds of pounds on fees waiting on a product that could be potentially all hype)

Also the eve online character accounts is a joke, you have 2 character slots but only 1 character can train a skill at a time so that second slot is pretty useless, if you want another character slot equiv to what wow gives for free you must pay double fees.

Just to finally say in regards to the person who got banned , you should speak to an admin in a polite manner and they may help you out? I know you probably just wanted someone to ask about it but asking on another community well its kinda futile :)