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Year Zero Club

Year Zero Club

...when simply winning is not enough!

First off, I couldn't have done this without the inspiration of the Metaverse League and Wyndstar in particular. Kudos to the master!

Now to the matter at hand.

I finally did it. A year zero win! Granted, it was only against 1 AI and on challenging (my current level) but I'm certain that 'tough' wouldn't have been much harder. On the other hand, it was my first attempt at an 'all-labs' and 'lease instead of buy' approach, so I consider myself proud that I could do it at all.

Here is the link to the character, as a proof: http://metaverse.galciv2.com/index.aspx?g=player&id=14517

For all of you, who like me thought that year zero wins are nigh impossible: Try it! Read the posts about it! It is difficult, requires constant micromanagement, but I found it incredibly rewarding to see that victory screen after 25 - 30 turns. Not the way I'd like to play constantly, but as a change of pace, it's a incredible challenge.

And of course, once you've accomplished your first 'Year Zero', post here and rejoice!


As an edit, I now include the current top score.


Attention new players!
Do not be frightened by these scores! Playing a ZYW is actually really easy, and getting a score close to 30000 points takes just a few tries. These games are usually finished in less than 20 minutes, so have at it. Try the tiny ZYWs first, I find them easier and you might get the unique chance to beat players like neilo or Wyndstar.


Current ZYW record holders:

'expert' ZYW - Gigantic


1) 198450 points - MottiKhan

2) 119000 points - Kzinti Patriarch

3) 109500 points - neilo


'classic' ZYW - Tiny

1) 56700points - MottiKhan

2) 40600 points - Kzinti Patriarch / Magnumaniac

3) 38850 points - Wyndstar

 

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Reply #176 Top
I bow before you sire......

teskas tal'tai-kleon

(compliments to a worthy opponent)
Reply #177 Top
LARGE!!!!!

I hadn't noticed......Off to try this out.
Reply #178 Top
I moved my ZY write up on the ToE forums for you to look at too KP. It lists how i play out my ZYW.

Check out the Good and Evil forum.
Reply #179 Top
Sorry KP, check out the Dark Avatar forums for it. :)
Reply #180 Top
Thanks everyone. :) Cant wait to get home and experiment some more...

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Reply #181 Top
I'll consider the experimenting a success! :D

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Reply #182 Top
Um, wow. Just...wow.

I'm trying to figure out what I want to say, but all that keeps coming up is wow.
Reply #183 Top
This has got to be a modified Mumblefratz strat, right? Incredible breakthrough in any case. :)
Reply #184 Top
I think the ZYW thing has just went to a whole new level :CONGRAT:
Reply #186 Top
Whoa. That is impressive.

Mind-boggling, too.

How did you accomplish this, KP?
Reply #187 Top
Holy Mary mother of Jesus!!!!

KP, my hat's off to you sir!!
:CONGRAT:
Reply #188 Top
This has got to be a modified Mumblefratz strat, right? Incredible breakthrough in any case.
End of quote

Nope, nothing to do with anything Mumble does, at least that I know of. It's a fusion of ideas from myself and other people. I'm in the midst of moving (the big move this coming Sunday), so I havent had time to really tweak it yet. Maybe I can get 90k, or 100k? :D

Somebody else will probably figure this out soon... Mag, Wyndstar, Nelio? ;)

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Reply #189 Top
Hm. 'Year Zero Club - when simply winning isnt enough'. :D

I'm really looking forward to reading about that strategy and analysis from the other top players.
Reply #190 Top
It's a fusion of ideas from myself and other people.
End of quote

Who...Spacetimer?  :LOL: Good job on the scores!




Reply #191 Top
It's a fusion of ideas from myself and other people.Who...Spacetimer?   Good job on the scores!
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The scores do look improbable, don't they? I was initially completely surprised at the resulting scores of the first few games, but then I realized why it was even possible, and what mechanics were in play. All the clues needed to duplicate thse scores are out there, and just need to be pieced together. ;) Who will be the next to figure it out?

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Reply #192 Top
Don't worry I would never call YOU a cheater. A string chaser, maybe....but never a cheater. I personally don't play for those ultra high scores, but I do admire the dedication it takes for you guys (You, Mumble, Motti, Neilo, etc) to find ways to get them. Once again.....good job!!  :CONGRAT:  
Reply #193 Top
Awesome KzintiPatriarch!

It's mind boggling that after all the tweaking and attempts from expert players such a breakthrough is still possible using Dark Avatar :)
Reply #194 Top
Im at a loss at the moment KP. I will try more on monday when i have more free time, though i am wondering about a certain way to do it but it would require me to go pass April 8th. I assume you are still finishing these games on April 8th?
Reply #195 Top
Im at a loss at the moment KP. I will try more on monday when i have more free time, though i am wondering about a certain way to do it but it would require me to go pass April 8th. I assume you are still finishing these games on April 8th?
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Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. :)

Here are some hints on differences from what I was doing previously:

1. Galactic position is more important.
2. Number of game turns is slightly less important.
3. Minor civs are somewhat less important.

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Reply #196 Top
So, I go away for a few days and you change the goalposts  ;) 

I still believe I can claim the best score on a tiny map...

...and just for good measure:



Now I'm away from the computer for another week, so plenty of time to set a challenging target KP!
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Reply #197 Top
You're kidding?
Reply #198 Top
Wow.. incredible.. you two are truly insane :). Any hints?
Reply #199 Top
Hmm, well atleast this means you'll be leaving the mil solar rankings to us lessor beings. :LOL:
Reply #200 Top
So, I go away for a few days and you change the goalposts   I still believe I can claim the best score on a tiny map......and just for good measure:

This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 642x353 and weighs 33k.Now I'm away from the computer for another week, so plenty of time to set a challenging target KP!
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Nice Game!  :CONGRAT: My best is just a little over 2k away from your 80k game. NOw that I'm back connected to the net after moving, I can get back to work. ;)

Actually on tiny, we are still tied Mag. :D

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