i'll take Time by Pink Floyd. in general, and for its parity to the workday.



you know, parring down government bureaucracy is one of the only issues where i agree with the Libertarian point of view. i don't think it's something to cut down as an end in itself, but i think most agencies would benefit from less centralization. for me, it has to do with strong decision making. people who actually do the job generally know how it'd be done best, and good leaders are those who can make decisions independantly and on the spot, and own up to them later, whatever the consequences of the decision.

I think liability and lowyers scare any remnant of independant thought out of our beurocrats. And we only have our litigating selves to blame for that.

it strike anyone else as sad that they're more afraid of being sued than of losing votes? one of my old profs called the U.S. a "litigious society."

Looks like it's starting again?

Our governments are playing into the terrorists hands again

Isn’t it strange that all these potential terrorist threats have surfaced now?
While Bush is at an all time low, and Blaire has just resigned.

I feel a shift in world power.

Isn’t it weird that all these threats surface at just the right time.

Looks like a political sweep and clear.

"America and the world is under threat again, “

What I believe now,
we are dealing with an attempt to scare the masses into a frenzy that forgives an incompetent president.
Who is desperate to win "the war with terrorism"

I hate being "scared!" please , world leaders, TELL ME WHY I SHOULD BE?.

Marcus

Same here in Australia today. I cannot help but think of the biblical 'good samaritan' story. If that good Samaritan did today what he did back then, then he would be making himself liable to be sued by the person he saved! You know, they might be able to argue that by picking up an injured person, you caused him to have (a fake) whiplash!!

I am ashamed by the thought that any man could think like this.
Is is a tragedy that some ppl give up on their fellows. or is it a self serving coward that pretends to be such,

Mystic, tell me what you think Coward or fool. which is best in this world.

A fool might sue somone who saved his life, but only because we have a fools law that would allow such things to happen. So in having such a fools law, we create cowards who are too afraid to do the right thing incase they get sued.

My point is, fix the law!

I agree, but only fools would think that a law suit comes above life,
I know our law is different in the UK and rightly so.

It cannot be contemplated that any citizen trying to save a life can be seen as complicit in a death
What fools thought of that law, what idiots uphold it, what morons.

Marcus.

PS, is death that expensive?

How is the law different in England?

What happens if i knock down a guy raping a woman? In Australia i can be charged with assault for doing that.

What happens if i pull somone out of a burning car crash and injur their kneck when i do it? I'm not sure if i can be sued for doing that in Australia, but deffinately America!

If a public servant bends a rule to get somthing done which needs doing to help somone out in life, that public servant is exposing himself and his department to liability in America or Australia, so of course public servants just tend to ignore peoples needs, and never use their own good judgement as a result.

Sure in the states I can be sued for pulling someone out of a burning car and injure their neck but I will probably get away with it unless I am a medical professional and actually trained to do so. That makes the law ten times more foolish to me. If you cry out is there a doctor in the house all the doctors run for the door.

hehehe, well i guess i shouldn't laugh, because such exadurations have a way of becoming true! Especially if we continue allowing people to sue.

Should we ban sueing altogether? I think it could use about another 50% more restrictions personally.

that's not totally true. as a public servant in a family of public servants, the really good ones bend the rules. when we get things done, we have to hide the fact.

there was a great quote in one of the Dune books, something like: i would gladly submit to the sound judgement of a single man over the cold procedure of law. (the idea is that laws can't take context into consideration. i'd add that too much emphasis on law makes people blind to the values those laws were supposed to protect or encourage).

Yea and one thing for sure, if somthing goes wrong and there is an investigation, any rule benders get crucified if their rule bending can in any kind of fanciful stretch of the immagination, be associated with the problem. The term 'scape goats' comes to mind.



couldn't have said it better myself!   

Is this a fact? or.
If Donald trump choked on a grape would there not be a fight to get to him.
and maybe give simple aid in order to ingratiate themselves.

Shite floats on cash.

Marcus

It is not a fact it's an exaggeration, I should have made that clear. Actually I think only one U.S doctor has ever been sued for saving someone and I am not sure it had anything to do with a car wreck or other accident. It is however, a common myth among healthcare professionals. I was really trying to point out that one day it may come to that with the way lawsuits are being levied in the U.S right now. The most common thing to sue a doctor for is malpractice, basically doing something wrong or being negligent and not doing what you know is right.

In Australia i had to laugh when i saw a report on how women in Darwin had to travel hundreds of kilometers to Brisbane to have their babies.

Why?

Because women had sued doctors so much in Darwin that they simply refused to deliver any more babies!

Why is this madness, cause they would have liked her to give birth on the street?
If only i were allowed to say what i thought of them.


Is it funny that an expectant mother has been denied treatment,
guess they hate babies too. they cant pay?

let someone cut the doctors guts and see them travel to a distant hospital all the while screaming in agony before they almost bleed to death.

I'm in hysterics. laughing my head off, funny isn't it
those babies birthed on the roadside.


Marcus.

Doesn't this make you think that treatment needs to be delivered on the spot.

why are so many ppl so against any sort of social health

For most women, labor isn't quite that painful! Nevertheless, i am sure there have been plenty of instances of seriously injured people having that happen to them.

you said they wouldn't treat a patient,
let them feel a good knife wound and their credit card be lacking.

I was first witness to a man with a major head wound in France.
Blood pissing all over the road and the ambulance men just standing there
asking if he had money,

I screamed at them "help him" nothing then a few french people came around,
I asked them, " why are you standing here, make them help him"
One lady came up shouting at the medics and they muttered and then helped.

What scum is that . leaving someone to die cause he hasnt got any money.

I cant say any less of anyone . especially countries that havent got a national health service

Anyone who disagrees is the blood that i scraped off my shoes

Ive heard all the arguments, its cheaper to scrape them out of the gutter and throw them in a grave than help them live. so don't even try



Marcus

yes, I'm in a hateful mood, this society sucks and were letting them give us reasons to hate.

This society that we hold up as a bright light has no merit, no justice and no future unless we strive to make it so. the torture of anyone makes us pureile and loathsome

It makes me so depressed, so frightened for my humamity that we abuse in our greed for fear,
our need for superiority our need for our fake "well being".

Nothing can save us, we are damned .
ore western nature and so called freedom has only subjugated those that were never our enemies , but god only knows, by our actions, by our inhumane treatment of anyone even sniffed at as an enemy , however innocent. however not complicit.
These tortures have made us many enemies we should never have had.
This provocation has made us targets.

Yes America you are No 1, I feel sorry for your people. made targets just for political arrogance. it is truly horrid, all those deaths.
But why do wer insist on enslaving our own and at the request of bin laden
every security camera every phone tap has been insisted on by bin laden
Are we so scared that we let bush and ex Blaire spy on us at bin ladens behest?

Please forgive the people that will die needlessly by our foolish hand , our leaders acted without our consent and trust,
You will die, as a result of a stupid and arrogant thought, needlessly

**** our leaders arrogant stance, there wish is for you to die therefore justifying there position.then they can prove their incompetence as just

Marcus

Ps this is an incoherent rant but i believe every wword.

woke up on the wrong side today, did you Marcus?

Well to be fair, if a womans life was in danger then those doctors would treat them of course, just for normal delivery, they have to go to different city.

Also another point i forgot to mention is that the reason the doctors refused to deliver babies anymore was primarily because of the cost of the insurance. Since so many women were suing doctors in Darwin, the insurance premiums sky rocketed and became untenable.

My whole argument is basically this.... since the society of pregnant women as a whole in Darwin, chose to sue doctors so frivilously, they got sucked in by doctors shutting the door on them, i say the women they got their just reward for such behaviour.

Well, I wouldn't put it so darkly. There are plenty of good people in the world, but the problem is that most of them are blind and take lies as fact. The worst part is that most of them don't even have the capacity to open their eyes and realize it.

The real problem is the people in power. Many of them are far too greedy to see the needs of the people who put them into power.

I m against it cause who will pay for it!

you will, and so will i. with less than 1% of this country's gross income reserved for such endeavors, we could see an end to extreme poverty, AIDS, and a laundry list of other global problems within our lifetimes or our children's (depends on how old you are).

www.one.org

of course, in a democracy you're free to vote against such actions. but if the rest of us decide some of your taxes should go towards such noble goals, your only options will be doing it or prison.

all government is kleptocracy, but some kleptocrats are Robin Hoods whereas others are robbin' 'hoods.